• Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world
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    31 minutes ago

    Allegedly. I don’t believe Charlie’s murder went down the way they say it did. So many questions don’t have answers. And fuck JD vance.

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    3 hours ago

    “take the country back” dude, you’re the fucking vice president of the United States, your party controls all three branches of government and did so when Kirk was killed…you want to take the country back from yourself or something?

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    12 hours ago

    It’s the liberals fault that Charlie wasn’t racist enough and attracted the ire of the goypers.

    I guess.

  • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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    It’s infuriating how stupid and wrong JD Vance is.

    First, “people” didn’t take Kirk’s life. One person did. Nobody else knew about it beforehand.

    Second, we don’t know exactly how the shooter identified because he hasn’t said.

    Third, even if he recently identified as left-wing for a year, the entire rest of his life, he was right-wing.

    Fourth, a single person, acting alone, cannot be used to make conclusions about a group they are a member of. You have to know the context of the group.

    Left-wing people’s mainstream rhetoric is significantly less violent than right-wing people’s mainstream rhetoric. That’s why it’s natural to assume that his actions were motivated by his right-wing upbringing, regardless of where his motivations came from.

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      5 hours ago

      You assume he’s not intentionally picking his words in order to manipulate his base for his own political benefit.

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        I guess you’re referring to me using the word “stupid.” But I am referring to the sentiment that he’s expressing. It’s not only wrong. It’s just so obviously wrong that… let’s say the average middle schooler should be able to see through it. It’s just stupid.

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    The KKK lynched more white people than black people…

    History is too important to ignore, they’re 100% slow walking their followers to take the hate and violence past racism and apply it to anyone who doesn’t agree with them on everything.

    I get why the fascist followers don’t understand, but it’s legitimately scary so many opposed to fascism haven’t spent any time at all learning about how these movements work.

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      15 hours ago

      I’m not finding a source for your first claim - do you happen to have any?

      The KKK is vehemently anti-everything-not-WASP, but it seems majority lynchings were still against black American citizens.

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        I can’t find any studies for the KKK specifically, but overall lynchings in the US only had the number of white victims exceed the number of black victims once from 1882-1968:

        And based on some quick research it looks like that might be due to lynchings occurring in the Wild West against accused criminals, not based on racial bias. Given the general character of the KKK I wouldn’t expect the number of white victims they lynched to outnumber the black victims, although they did also target white people who worked with black rights organizations.

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    12 hours ago

    If he’s insinuating a violent civil war, he’ll soon learn not all of us lefties are anti-gun and pacifists.

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    13 hours ago

    But wasn’t the kid in love with his trans roommate, and therefore not ”one of them”?

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      Even if he was, this is still taking one random person’s actions and applying them to an entire population. This is also the vice president who should definitely not fucking be the one doing that shit, because statements from a leader of the nation obviously carry infinitely more weight on the national psyche and climate of violence