• WatDabney@sopuli.xyz
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    1 day ago

    Oh look - it’s the DNC Defense Force, here to get an early start on guilt-tripping leftists who won’t vote for whichever shitty center right neolib hack the DNC will likely end up trying to foist on the voters at the behest of their corporate donors.

    Fuck that. It’s not the voters’ responsibility to vote for a piece of shit just because they stink a little bit less than the other piece of shit - it’s the DNC’s responsibility to run candidates people actually want to vote for. And when they can’t (or more accurately won’t) even do that, then they and nobody else are responsible for the consequences.

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      And this is how we got to Trump, the other side acts like psychos but at least they have kind of a coherent football team mentality going on, even if they’re fucking ignorant racist sons of bitches. They don’t focus on the minutia of how they disagree with each other at every turn and spew vitriol and divide themselves like this. Nobody fucking hates the other factions on the left like a lefty. We are all so fractured and individual it’s a fucking joke. Like herding fucking cats, buddy. We should be able to use the anger from this moment to unite, but none of us can even decide what the fuck we should be uniting around. Meanwhile violent sociopathic pedophiles can corral enough morons to crash their way into the capitol whenever they want. We all have lofty ideals about the best possible form of government and the people to staff that government, but in order to have an operational government you have to have a team of people who are united. We can’t even agree on the morality of violence, much less point of finger in the direction we should go from here. Fucking frustrating homies.

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        Oh and…

        The fact that this whole norion of a lack of lefty unity is complete bullshit was neatly demonstrated by leftist voters coming together to overwhelmingly support Zohran Mamdani.

        And who didn’t support him? The fucking establishment neolib hacks - the exact same people who keep fucking us over by putting up shitty candidates then trying to guilt trip leftists into voting for them. We finally got a candidate we wanted and they couldn’t even be arsed to endorse him.

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          17 hours ago

          Enjoy the next 3 then. It’s not even what I’m implying. In fact, I’m positive you will - the fact that the two comments above sound the same tell me all I need to know.

          At least flip your scripts once in a while.

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          5 hours ago

          Should the DNC have run a better candidate? Yes!

          Was Harris a dream president? No!

          Would she have been better than Trump? Undoubtedly!

          Should people have voted for her? Yes, if you oppose Trump’s fascism. But no, if you don’t really care about your fellow citizens who may be at risk for deportation/prosecution/dehumanization.

          Harris and the DNC would’ve been a bit more amenable to the popular opinion than trump and the GQP have ever been. So after her election, people could have protested in Washington dc against Israel’s genocide and have found a listening ear in Congress.

          You shouldn’t base your presidential vote purely on one single issue. Especially not if it’s a foreign affairs issue, which is what the Israeli genocide in Palestine is. You need to look at the much broader picture. Look at the other policies and ideas that both candidates have.

          We knew about trumps desire to hurt his political enemies, we knew about his hatred for trans people, we knew about his desire to deport immigrant, before he got elected. So you could have based your vote on that.

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            And what you just described is the exact process by which governments descend into tyranny.

            The much better way to deal with the issue, if you actually do care about your fellow humans, is to refuse to support a toxic candidate even if they are somewhat less toxic than the alternative, and make sure at every single turn that the blame is placed squarely where it should be - on the foul, loathsome, corrupt and compromised scumbags who arranged for the nomination of a toxic piece of shit candidate in the first place.

            Less bad is still bad. If you settle for less bad, the best you’ll ever get is that things woll potentially get worse somewhat more slowly than they would otherwise. They’ll still inevitably get worse.

            If you want things to actually get better, then you have to hold the scumbags’ feet to the fire. You have to make sure that it’s widely understood that they and they alone are the reason that the best we can hope for is somewhat less bad and things getting worse somewhat more slowly. And you can’t do that by meekly going along with them.