I’m on the fence with your comment. Society viewing men as disposable is definitely a thing, and we do end up doing more hazardous and physically demanding work on the whole. The risks are real. Some of our mortality is hardwired, with men more prone to taking risks, which also drags the average.
You are also right about society not caring, though I would argue it’s the system we subscribe to.
I’m hesitant to fully jump on board with your comment because it’s close to bringing the whole ‘men too’ crowd which often has a note of toxicity to it.
The argument shouldnt be men vs. women, but people vs. those who exploit us, or people vs. the problem
It’s the phrasing- it is very easy for those who don’t look deeper to think this a men vs. women thing, and the commenter is stating that while he agrees with the idea, the phrasing is very easy to misunderstand.
You are also right about society not caring, though I would argue it’s the system we subscribe to.
How is this different in the context of healthcare for women?
I’m hesitant to fully jump on board with your comment because it’s close to bringing the whole ‘men too’ crowd which often has a note of toxicity to it.
This is irrelevant. The point is either valid or it isn’t. Neither you nor the person you’re talking to are responsible for the reactions of third parties. Judge the point being made on its own merits.
The argument shouldnt be men vs. women, but people vs. those who exploit us, or people vs. the problem
In an ideal world, maybe. But the health issues in question are relevant to a person’s sexual development (male vs. female) therefore it is functionally impossible to remove sex from the discussion.
It’s not really different in the contex of womens’ experiences in healthcare. What I’m alluding to here is that we all buy into this system (regardless of if we want to or not) rather than challenge it.
Irrelevant
Then their point is valid, I’m just disinclined to champion it because of shitty third party actors. I will acknowledge it’s validity though.
Ideal world
I’m not trying to remove sex from this particular issue but highlight that this issue is a smaller part of a systemic problem
I’m on the fence with your comment. Society viewing men as disposable is definitely a thing, and we do end up doing more hazardous and physically demanding work on the whole. The risks are real. Some of our mortality is hardwired, with men more prone to taking risks, which also drags the average.
You are also right about society not caring, though I would argue it’s the system we subscribe to.
I’m hesitant to fully jump on board with your comment because it’s close to bringing the whole ‘men too’ crowd which often has a note of toxicity to it.
The argument shouldnt be men vs. women, but people vs. those who exploit us, or people vs. the problem
Then make a post that doesn’t specifically target men vs women
I subscribed to this? Could I see my signature on this contract?
But aren’t you doing the first, rather than the second with your post?
You’re expecting too much thought from us.
This is what I tried to hint at.
No it’s exactly what you said. Not sure why OP is on the fence.
It’s the phrasing- it is very easy for those who don’t look deeper to think this a men vs. women thing, and the commenter is stating that while he agrees with the idea, the phrasing is very easy to misunderstand.
How is this different in the context of healthcare for women?
This is irrelevant. The point is either valid or it isn’t. Neither you nor the person you’re talking to are responsible for the reactions of third parties. Judge the point being made on its own merits.
In an ideal world, maybe. But the health issues in question are relevant to a person’s sexual development (male vs. female) therefore it is functionally impossible to remove sex from the discussion.
It’s not really different in the contex of womens’ experiences in healthcare. What I’m alluding to here is that we all buy into this system (regardless of if we want to or not) rather than challenge it.
Then their point is valid, I’m just disinclined to champion it because of shitty third party actors. I will acknowledge it’s validity though.
I’m not trying to remove sex from this particular issue but highlight that this issue is a smaller part of a systemic problem
The world isn’t a logic table.