U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio suggested Sunday that the United States would not take a day-to-day role in governing Venezuela other than enforcing an existing “oil quarantine” on the country, a turnaround after President Donald Trump announced a day earlier that the U.S. would be running Venezuela following its ouster of leader Nicolás Maduro.
Rubio’s statements on TV talk shows seemed designed to temper concerns about whether the assertive American action to achieve regime change might again produce a prolonged foreign intervention or failed attempt at nation-building.
They stood in contrast to Trump’s broad but vague claims that the U.S. would at least temporarily “run” the oil-rich nation — comments that suggested some sort of governing structure under which Caracas would be controlled by Washington.
But Rubio offered a more nuanced take, saying the U.S. would continue to enforce an oil quarantine that was already in place on sanctioned tankers before Maduro was removed from power early Saturday and use that leverage as a means to press for policy changes in Venezuela.
So Trump kidnaps Venezuela’s president, which will probablly throw the nation into a massive crisis, then says the US will have nothing to do with running the country as long as all the oil is delivered to America.
Jfc. The collective stupidity in the WH is utterly astounding.
More like collective cruelty
In s neither, it’s extortion on a massive scale. The U.S. is being run by gangsters.
would you accept ‘collective cruelty and stupidity’? or would ‘collective cruelty, stupidity, and shortsightedness’ be more accurate? How about ‘collective cruelty, stupidity, greed, and shortsightedness’?
Where’s the stupidity? They’ve made their demonstration: do what the US wants or you’ll be Shanghaied - I guess we should call that New Yorked now - in the wee hours and be in a US jail awaiting kangaroo court.
The implication for the next administration, whoever they may be, is obvious. The US doesn’t need to run the country if the country’s government is strong-armed into doing what the US wants.
This, incidentally, is exactly what Russia wants out of Ukraine: they’re happy with any outcome where they aren’t prevented from repeating their aggression, so that all the blood and treasure they’ve expended on the war serves as a repeatable example for the post-war Ukraine government: “do what we want, or get bombed to fuck.”
enforcing an existing “oil quarantine” on the country
If you still weren’t sure whether or not the US gave a damn about the Venezuelan people (hint: we do not), this should settle it for you.
I kinda do give a damn about Venezuelan people, you see. It’s my government that doesn’t give a shit about US nor Venezuelan citizens.
The majority of the Americans who voted in the last election voted in favor of that government. That’s where our morals and values are, overall. You and I might care about the Venezuelan people, but we have been overruled.
I’m pretty sure about 19M eligible voters were convinced that their vote wouldn’t count, or otherwise outright prevented from voting. So I can’t really call it a majority. But sure if it makes you more comfortable, then I’m ok with you holding that viewpoint.
I’m not comfortable with any of this, but, like I said, I’ve been overruled.
Well, ultimately you and I are in the ‘under’ part of being overruled. So I can only wish you well as we do what have to in these next months and years. Sort of thing that makes me grateful for the gentle, consensual anarchy of my ‘small circle of friends’.
So we’re literally holding Maduro hostage, then.
Here’s the thing that I keep getting stuck on: Venezuela is not the US, right? So why in blue fuck does the US think it’s allowed to have a position on Venezuela’s governance?
What if Venezuela kidnapped the US president? Would Venezuela then get to dictate how the US reacts? Of course fucking not.
It’s all mental and I can’t handle it.
Because of Manifest Destiny. Old wealthy people love them some manifest destiny.
“Might makes right”.
Ah, the “Why do you keep hitting yourself” doctrine.
Maduro is deeply unpopular in Venezuela and the country is in a really bad place.
Sure, America is probably one of the main reasons for that, but Maduro is high up there himself.
Best case scenario, this could turn out ok. Worst case, for the average person, probably not much difference.
Why is the country in a really bad place?
Maduro ostensibly fucked with the last election and I’ve heard that living is hard. Doesn’t mean the US is allowed to abduct them ofc.
“in a really bad place” =/= “a really bad place”
Its amazing how this is a positive change to the narrative and yet the people on here, who arent even Venezuelan, will still bitch about it like its gotten worse.
Fuck US intervention, but its seems most Venezuelans are happy Maduro has been ousted. Let’s hope the interim president can keep their shit together and keep the US out as much as possible.
I doubt most Venezuelans will appreciate an oil “quarantine” which will further stress there already strained economy.
Most Venezuelans in the US are happy because they tend to be the wealthier middle class that could afford to leave and hate Maduro, for some valid reasons.
It’d be like if Trump took over and you only listened to the US expat community in Canada. Everyone there would cheer Trump’s death, even if it was by foreign imperialist hands, but that wouldn’t be an accurate view of what all Americans think of Trump. Most would be mad if Xi assassinated trump, even if they didn’t like him personally.
In Venezuela the people are more split on Maduro but if the choice is between him and some US backed regime that siezes the oil and gives it to Exxon then most are going to side with Maduro.
Stop talking.
Please. You don’t get it, you’re not Venezuelan. Then shut up.
Your comment was awfully racist, xenophobic and classist. Just stop.
If you disagree about the US dictating what Venezuela does through violence and threats. Then lead by example and stop being the dumb gringo that pretends to know what foreigners think and do better than them. Stop.
