• James R Kirk@startrek.website
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    They stopped using the pyramid a longtime ago, but yeah this one isn’t bad:

    As a pile of (mostly) healthy food it’s fine. But as an infographic it completely sucks.

    EDIT: It’s interesting they would have frozen peas at the top (mostly empty starch) but whole grains at the bottom (assuming the bottom means “sparingly”). Also red meat and butter should not be a large part of anyone’s daily calories.

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      I’m not defending the pyramid overall, only commenting on the peas.

      Peas have a decent amount of protein (not high protein, but decent) and a good amount of fiber. They are generally pretty good and probably a better choice than things people might eat instead. They are basically beans after all. They are certainly not empty starch and are pretty easy to add to many dishes.

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        I was taught they are starchy but that was grade school days and I won’t die on this hill. I certainly didn’t mean to imply peas were unhealthy. What I found odd is that they are on opposite ends of the pyramid from “whole grains” which is a carb I would personally say is on about the same level as peas overall.

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      Yeah it seems to overvalue dairy and red meat for what I believe is a healthy diet, but I’m also an unhealthy layman, not a nutritionist.

      Some guidance on portions or quantities seems useful and totally absent here, but “eat more fruits and veggies” seems like good advice.

      I’d put eggs and fish above steak and cheese, but, yeah, as another poster replied, I’m not being paid by any cattle lobbyists.

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        Yeah, the whole dairy thing when it comes to propaganda is just…wild. Same goes for red meat.

        I really wish we could completely erase money’s influence on things like government nutritional information and THEN do a proper reassessment of dairy and meat in general.

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      I really hope there is more information to it. Imagine trying to downsize a department to 60,000 workers asking 1 person to do this, giving them a year and coming back and them just handing you this picture. 2000 hours of labor, I think I’d be flabbergasted

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      Also red meat and butter should not be a large part of anyone’s daily calories.

      Won’t anyone think of the beef and dairy industry lobbyists, though?

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      It looks like healthy fats are together in a ‘category’ with olive oil > avocado > butter > nuts. I would swap butter and nuts but it kinda makes a bit of sense, just is very unclear especially to a layperson. The oil needs to be specifically labeled ‘olive’, the yogurt needs to be Greek unsweetened bc 99% of yogurts add a shitload of sugar, and red meat should be way further down