A woman is dead after being shot by a federal agent during an ICE operation Wednesday morning in south Minneapolis. U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem called the woman's actions leading up to the shooting "an act of domestic terrorism."
Well, if I can’t prove it to you with charts, articles, AI responses, and Google searches, what else could I do? I would’ve liked to provide you with the data from ICE themselves, but I can’t make them release the data going back to 2003, or even 2025.
Maybe? You haven’t linked me a single set of data apart from the ICE data that only covers Biden years.
But again, I can just grant you that Biden’s deportation numbers were higher. Let’s assume it’s true.
Can you answer the question please?
What you’re saying is that if under Trump, 100 illegals came in, and he violently deported 800 people by pulling them out of their cars, that’s better than if under Biden 1000 illegals came in and he turned 900 of them away at the border.
That’s not the argument though. If under Trump, he deported 800 immigrants, biden/Obama deported 1200. And if 50 died in ICE custody under Trump, 20 would die under Biden.
And if 50 died in ICE custody under Trump, 20 would die under Biden
Sounds like we agree that Trump is worse in that category, then.
If under Trump, he deported 800 immigrants, biden/Obama deported 1200
We can use those numbers if you like:
What you’re saying is that if under Trump, 100 illegals came in, and he violently deported 800 people by pulling them out of their cars, that’s better than if under Biden 1000 illegals came in and he turned 900 of them away at the border, and sent another 300 back who had lived in the US for a year.
Really? Are you not at all ashamed of yourself here? Just gonna keep on spreading blatantly baseless claims?
To recap:
You tried to say that Biden/Kamala were worse on deportation than Trump has been so far
Snarkily claimed that other people “didn’t actually look into it”
Doubled down to insist that your source included 2025 data until enough people had pointed out that it doesn’t that you had to admit you didn’t do a cursory reading of your own source (the header literally says it ends at Dec 2024, it should have been one of the first things you read)
Pivoted to say that you actually meant Trumps first term
Failed to produce a single piece of data to prove that either
And then despite all that, even when I just granted you that everything you say is true and gave you the ultimate out, you still can’t explain why higher number = bad.
Anyone with an ounce of decency would have taken the L and admitted they were wrong ages ago. I’m baffled by what motivates you to just gaslight and pivot like this.
Disengage indeed. You never should have engaged in the first place if you are truly too incompetent to even read your own sources.
Well, if I can’t prove it to you with charts, articles, AI responses, and Google searches, what else could I do? I would’ve liked to provide you with the data from ICE themselves, but I can’t make them release the data going back to 2003, or even 2025.
Why are you pretending you’ve provided any charts? I’ve been hounding you for data and you haven’t produced any. Give me some charts!
Which is another way of saying that you’re spreading baseless claims. Why are you doing that?
Also why are you refusing to answer the question? Why is a higher number of deportations inherently worse?
Did I link those articles, the charts, and the AI answer to someone else?
Maybe? You haven’t linked me a single set of data apart from the ICE data that only covers Biden years.
But again, I can just grant you that Biden’s deportation numbers were higher. Let’s assume it’s true.
Can you answer the question please?
What you’re saying is that if under Trump, 100 illegals came in, and he violently deported 800 people by pulling them out of their cars, that’s better than if under Biden 1000 illegals came in and he turned 900 of them away at the border.
Why do you believe that you be true?
That’s not the argument though. If under Trump, he deported 800 immigrants, biden/Obama deported 1200. And if 50 died in ICE custody under Trump, 20 would die under Biden.
I’ll start with the simple one:
Sounds like we agree that Trump is worse in that category, then.
We can use those numbers if you like:
What you’re saying is that if under Trump, 100 illegals came in, and he violently deported 800 people by pulling them out of their cars, that’s better than if under Biden 1000 illegals came in and he turned 900 of them away at the border, and sent another 300 back who had lived in the US for a year.
Why do you believe that you be true?
Feel like we’re long past getting anything out of this conversation. So as other instances like to say, I disengage.
Really? Are you not at all ashamed of yourself here? Just gonna keep on spreading blatantly baseless claims?
To recap:
And then despite all that, even when I just granted you that everything you say is true and gave you the ultimate out, you still can’t explain why higher number = bad.
Anyone with an ounce of decency would have taken the L and admitted they were wrong ages ago. I’m baffled by what motivates you to just gaslight and pivot like this.
Disengage indeed. You never should have engaged in the first place if you are truly too incompetent to even read your own sources.
Please grow a spine.