• artyom@piefed.social
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          1 day ago

          No one is talking about gasoline. We’re talking about the price to purchase the vehicle.

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        They are cheaper to manufacture in the long run though. Less parts and complexity.

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            That’s what Elon sold us. The cost of a battery has dropped 90% in the last decade. Why dont ICE haters quote the cost of catalytic converters?

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              The cost of a battery has dropped 90% in the last decade.

              They’re still very expensive.

              Why dont ICE haters quote the cost of catalytic converters?

              I don’t know, why would they?

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                I don’t know, why would they?

                Because EVs don’t have them and they are expensive. JFC buddy, would a crayon picture help?

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                  Why wouldn’t they quote the cost of spark plugs or cylinder heads or transmission syncros? They’re all part of the same powertrain.

                  If catalytic converters comprised 80% of the cost of the powertrain, and 30% of the cost of the vehicle, and they ICE more expensive than EVs, they probably would point to that as an explanation for why they’re more expensive. But none of those things are true.

                  Were you dropped on your head as a child?

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            Just what do you think is easier to make. A battery where sheets of metal are coated in a liquid, dried, cut, rolled, and placed in a box? or all the parts needing milling and placement for a an automatic transmission engine?

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              I don’t know what’s easier to make. I do know what’s more expensive.

              If you get a vehicle that’s very efficient and give it 150 miles of range, they can be quite a bit less expensive, but we also know no one will buy them.

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                Get up to date. Lithium packs now cost $108 per kw hr. Or $5500 for a typical pack.

                A catalytic converter on an F150 is $2000.

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                  6 hours ago

                  Where are you getting this information from? A typical pack is 60kWh at minimum, which is $6500, assuming that rate is correct.