anyone with an income of 100K or better can. that’s a lot of people and the majority of new car buyers are in that income bracket. 20% of the USA population.
Dacia sells a full BEV for less then USD14K in the EU. So you are basically saying that a new ICE car costs USD4K in the US? In China they are even cheaper or have better ranges. Hell countries like Nepal famous for the insane number of poor migrant workers it send to the Arab world has an EV share of 76% and it is not exactly uncommon for developing countries to be well above the 7% in the US.
i live in the USA i can only buy cars on the USA market. in the USA market EV is a luxury market. EV drivers are primarily paying 50K+ or more for these cars as a status symbol. Your average school teacher can’t afford an EV, and is buying a used hybrid/ICE car.
what goes on in the EU/China whatever is irrelevant, i don’t live there. I also cannot import those vehicles and they’d be illegal to drive here due to our safety and emission standards.
just like the fact if i want a house here, it costs me 500K. Houses in nepal might be 50K, great for them. But it’s irrelevant to me. 50K houses existing in nepal does nothing and has no economic impact for me.
the USA market EV is a luxury market. EV drivers are primarily paying 50K+ or more for these cars as a status symbol. Your average school teacher can’t afford an EV, and is buying a used hybrid/ICE car.
Brand new Nissan Leaf is under $30K. Used lightly under $14K for a 2021 model. The sweet spot with EVs is used because idiots think they will explode in 3 years. The beauty of ignorance is a cheap alternative for those who read.
This thread thinks EVs are Teslas. You can buy facial tissues for a lot less than Kleenex.
i live in the USA i can only buy cars on the USA market. in the USA market EV is a luxury market. EV drivers are primarily paying 50K+ or more for these cars as a status symbol. Your average school teacher can’t afford an EV, and is buying a used hybrid/ICE car.
what goes on in the EU/China whatever is irrelevant, i don’t live there. I also cannot import those vehicles and they’d be illegal to drive here due to our safety and emission standards.
We are talking BEVs here. They do not have emissions. It is also not like EU safety standards are low. In other words that is not the problem.
Who can fucking afford them?!
anyone with an income of 100K or better can. that’s a lot of people and the majority of new car buyers are in that income bracket. 20% of the USA population.
the other 80% cannot afford them.
US Americans go into debt to afford combustion engine cars.
They pay $120,000 for a stupid truck.
ICE are about 10K cheaper than a comparible EV.
Hybrid is really where the best value for dollar is.
Dacia sells a full BEV for less then USD14K in the EU. So you are basically saying that a new ICE car costs USD4K in the US? In China they are even cheaper or have better ranges. Hell countries like Nepal famous for the insane number of poor migrant workers it send to the Arab world has an EV share of 76% and it is not exactly uncommon for developing countries to be well above the 7% in the US.
Because it’s a Dongfeng and the Chinese government is dumping to kill local industry. Good luck with that POS in 4 years.
i live in the USA i can only buy cars on the USA market. in the USA market EV is a luxury market. EV drivers are primarily paying 50K+ or more for these cars as a status symbol. Your average school teacher can’t afford an EV, and is buying a used hybrid/ICE car.
what goes on in the EU/China whatever is irrelevant, i don’t live there. I also cannot import those vehicles and they’d be illegal to drive here due to our safety and emission standards.
just like the fact if i want a house here, it costs me 500K. Houses in nepal might be 50K, great for them. But it’s irrelevant to me. 50K houses existing in nepal does nothing and has no economic impact for me.
Brand new Nissan Leaf is under $30K. Used lightly under $14K for a 2021 model. The sweet spot with EVs is used because idiots think they will explode in 3 years. The beauty of ignorance is a cheap alternative for those who read.
This thread thinks EVs are Teslas. You can buy facial tissues for a lot less than Kleenex.
it’s also a shitty car nobody wants. Nissan has a horrible reputation.
you seem to think people are jerks for not buying a crappy EV when they can get a much better ICE for the same/less?
why would i ever buy a leaf if it is a POS that doesn’t meet my needs?
Even then there are cars like the Nissan Leaf for 26K. Over 35K there are a lot more options. So EV drivers paying 50K+ is really optional. Even compared to ICE cars it is not that crazy. The cheapest new one still costs over 20K
We are talking BEVs here. They do not have emissions. It is also not like EU safety standards are low. In other words that is not the problem.
Used EVs are also incredibly cheap. I basically saved 30k on a MachE GT by letting someone else drive it for 9000 miles.
Because people buy into the propaganda. Nissan leafs are good in gen 2 or 3, 2018 or newer, and they are $10K or less without much mileage.
Unlike used ICE, no need to worry about transmissions or timing chains, even the brakes last forever because of regen.