• TheFermentalist@reddthat.com
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    2 days ago

    The second amendment is supposedly the last line of defence against a tyrannical government. There was a lot of macho bullshit talk about rising up against Obama when he was going to take ma gunz.

    Actual tyranny, actual harm to individuals and communities, open fascism in American streets.

    Looks like the good ol’ boys were full of shit. Either cowards mouthing off, or they like this flavor of boot.

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      It’s so funny how people screamed tyranny over make and vaccination during COVID but I can hear crickets when yanks are being killed by ICE.

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      The same people saying those things are all on the wrong side of this, as well as Russian bot farms. So samesies.

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        You don’t realize, that people who were saying that shit, are now using said guns, working with ICE and for the govt, fulfilling their wettest, wildest dreams. You think they do it for money? Haha….

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          Um, that’s what I said?! Without the weird fetish add on. You do you buddy…

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      It was always about a tyrannical government with the unspoken “that I don’t agree with.”

      These people cannot morally reason at a high enough level to understand the hypocrisy.

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        They became anti-government when the government forced them to de-segregate, they became pro-government when the government began forcing us to re-segregate

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        Gun nuts dropped the “tyrannical government” government thing long ago. I watch a lot of GunTubers and it never comes up. As with any subject, I’m sure we could find fruitcakes propounding any nonsense, but no one even close to mainstream talks about this.

        Reading comments like is reminds me of a conservative ex-friend telling me, “liberal believe bla bla bla”, and asking him, “What echo chamber is feeding you that bullshit?!”

      • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.worldOP
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        Ok but when will you people realize this. It’s about winning. Morals are going to put you in a gulag

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      ICE isn’t anywhere near us yet. I am never unarmed, at home or in public. I will certainly die if they come for me, but masked men at my door or approaching my brown wife are going to be attacked with everything I got. And I am scared shitless.

      Easy for me to say, I’ve lived a fairly wild and interesting life, no longer a young man with the world ahead of me. ICE has made it crystal clear, they are going to kill us with impunity. Though I am scared to die yet willing to fight, I have decided I will not volunteer for it.

      And for everyone saying, “Where my 2A boys at?” Right here. (Sorta. I’m a big time gun nut that is ambivalent about the 2A.) What exactly am I to do? If I’m going to throw my life away, it better fucking count. I’ve drawn the line on defending my wife, but am I to actively hunt fascists in other states?

      What would you have me do? I could arm my entire block, though everyone already has some sort of guns, even the little old black lady across the street. Then what? My knowledge of insurgency is limited to books and movies. ?

      • TheFermentalist@reddthat.com
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        What would I have you do? Mutual aid my friend. Make sure friends, neighbours, and allies are safe, have food and shelter. Build community. I too would take your path. I’m closer to 60 than I like and won’t go looking for trouble anymore, but I will defend my wife and kids.

        Community is your best defence against the rising authoritarianism and something that the fascists want to take from you. They want you alone and scared.

        Find like minded people. It won’t be hard. Support them. The hard part that I have found, is letting them support me.