I would conclude that it’s not the voters that need a warning, but the leaders.
In a democracy, if you don’t support the will of your voter base, you deserve to lose the election. It’s not the voters fault when politicians run completely ineffective campaigns.
And fuck the “lesser evil” utilitarian horseshit. The Nazis currently running the federal government justify everything they do based on utilitarian principles.
ICE’s terror campaign? It’s the lesser of two evils. We can’t let crime run rampant!
Destroying international law and invading sovereign countries? A lesser evil required by our national security.
The mass corruption of the administration? DIsmissable as a lesser evil necessary to advance necessary policies.
The literal historical Nazis justified everything they did on utilitarian grounds. They claimed murdering millions of innocent people was an unfortunate necessity, the lesser evil of many bad options.
You have to start your ethics from a framework of respect for persons. Everything else just leads you to Hell.
Agree with you. But the last election was not the time to discuss that. The time was before by voting in local elections, or after by again voting in local elections.
You had a chance to make things better with Harris. But with Trump you might never be able to vote again.
This line of reasoning means it’s never time to discuss that as long as one side is pushing facism. Who I vote for park commissioner isn’t going to change the way this country is run.
People with your political instincts are why we are fighting the what we are today. You continue to fail to learn that you can’t shame people into voting no matter how hard you try.
No people like you are why trump is in office and not her. Those that need perfection or fuck the world. How many people would still be alive today if not for trump. But at least you have ypur laurals.
We can start with Kamala, Biden, and everyone at the DNC. They could use a good stay in the public stockades for running such a monumentally stupid campaign. We could set up a stockade on the national mall. Everyone could come and throw rotten tomatoes at them. It would be great!
And that’s why posts like this are important, otherwise people do this both sides bullshit all over. I mean, you still do, but that’s for spite I believe
No, but I’d rather tell the party that doesn’t represent me to start doing it instead of telling them they did nothing wrong.
I voted for Harris mind you, I just want to vote for someone I truly believe in next time and that won’t happen if we just keep scapegoating. I’m actually scared they might try to run her again at this point.
If that’s the general ballot then we’ll already have lost 2032 and the fascism will get even worse. Biden all over again. We’ll continue to fail the working class and they’ll continue to blame Democrats.
Thats what Im afriad of. I work a blue collar job and its wild that all my coworkers think that its libs like me are the reason the working class is so fucked. And they think that not taxing billionaires is a good idea. 🤦♂️
I think it’s more a warning to people for next time. If they ever get a chance to vote again maybe they should think about the impact of not voting.
I would conclude that it’s not the voters that need a warning, but the leaders.
In a democracy, if you don’t support the will of your voter base, you deserve to lose the election. It’s not the voters fault when politicians run completely ineffective campaigns.
And fuck the “lesser evil” utilitarian horseshit. The Nazis currently running the federal government justify everything they do based on utilitarian principles.
ICE’s terror campaign? It’s the lesser of two evils. We can’t let crime run rampant!
Destroying international law and invading sovereign countries? A lesser evil required by our national security.
The mass corruption of the administration? DIsmissable as a lesser evil necessary to advance necessary policies.
The literal historical Nazis justified everything they did on utilitarian grounds. They claimed murdering millions of innocent people was an unfortunate necessity, the lesser evil of many bad options.
You have to start your ethics from a framework of respect for persons. Everything else just leads you to Hell.
Could we maybe warn to party to actually represent us instead?
So it’s ok for fascists to win because the only viable other party doesnt represent you?
What the hell is wrong with people.
You’ve got that the wrong way around. It’s not okay for one party to be shit just because the other wants to destroy the world.
Agree with you. But the last election was not the time to discuss that. The time was before by voting in local elections, or after by again voting in local elections.
You had a chance to make things better with Harris. But with Trump you might never be able to vote again.
This line of reasoning means it’s never time to discuss that as long as one side is pushing facism. Who I vote for park commissioner isn’t going to change the way this country is run.
People with your political instincts are why we are fighting the what we are today. You continue to fail to learn that you can’t shame people into voting no matter how hard you try.
No people like you are why trump is in office and not her. Those that need perfection or fuck the world. How many people would still be alive today if not for trump. But at least you have ypur laurals.
I just saw a meme about how shame is dead. We need to bring back shame. Anyone who helped Trump gain the power he has ought to be ashamed.
We can start with Kamala, Biden, and everyone at the DNC. They could use a good stay in the public stockades for running such a monumentally stupid campaign. We could set up a stockade on the national mall. Everyone could come and throw rotten tomatoes at them. It would be great!
Cool. I am shamed, now what?
Change.
That’s such a logical leap, I must conclude you’re a Republican.
As supposed to the other fascists to win.
And that’s why posts like this are important, otherwise people do this both sides bullshit all over. I mean, you still do, but that’s for spite I believe
No, but I’d rather tell the party that doesn’t represent me to start doing it instead of telling them they did nothing wrong.
I voted for Harris mind you, I just want to vote for someone I truly believe in next time and that won’t happen if we just keep scapegoating. I’m actually scared they might try to run her again at this point.
It wouldn’t surprise me if its her vs Gavin in a primary. And I don’t think that either is a great choice
If that’s the general ballot then we’ll already have lost 2032 and the fascism will get even worse. Biden all over again. We’ll continue to fail the working class and they’ll continue to blame Democrats.
Thats what Im afriad of. I work a blue collar job and its wild that all my coworkers think that its libs like me are the reason the working class is so fucked. And they think that not taxing billionaires is a good idea. 🤦♂️
Fully agree with you. She was a bad candidate.