Ill give my shpeal on this quickly. There arent too many people on the planet. There are too many people to sustain our shitty, wasteful western lifestyles. People who advocate for a lower population are intentionally or unwittingly arguing their wasteful lifestyle is more important than the needs of others.
Its a selfish take with no basis in reality. The science is clear. The earth can sustain a lot more people if we arent all living stupid lifestyles where we order fucking plastic dolls of fucking anime characters created by slave labor off Amazon every day.
I’m asking you to explain how you think it would be possible for the world to sustain more people?
Espcially when it is scientifically proven we are running out of fresh water and arable land, and the oceans are acidifying to the point where we are worried about oxygen producing species dying off soon.
So yeah people should really stop having kids, but I’m very aware that basically nobody actually gives a shit about the environment, the future, the wellbeing of their future kids, or even just any other people.
And I’m not telling people how bad the future is going to be out of some sort of delusional belief that if everybody just listened to me and stopped having kids the world could heal and all would be well. Lmao, we’re long past that point, that was in like the 70’s, way before my time.
I’m talking about climate collapse and the world ending because we’re unequivocally fucked beyond all fixing this and seeing people bringing yet more lives into the world when the future is so bleak, is fucking horrifying.
Ah. Thats a different argument. I can understand that though I find it pessimistic. Im annoyed at people saying overconsumption is due to too many people in the world. It isnt. Its because, well, OVER consuming resources by a relatively small percent of the population.
Yeah you’re not wrong either, but like with my gripe, there’s no possible way of changing human nature to fix or even mitigate this.
So we’re both kinda just yelling into the void about how much our species sucks, haha.
Edit: Although I’m not entierly sure how you think the redistribution of wealth would work without sharing resources, ngl. If you could expand on that, I’d be very interested in reading your theories.
Ill give my shpeal on this quickly. There arent too many people on the planet. There are too many people to sustain our shitty, wasteful western lifestyles. People who advocate for a lower population are intentionally or unwittingly arguing their wasteful lifestyle is more important than the needs of others.
Its a selfish take with no basis in reality. The science is clear. The earth can sustain a lot more people if we arent all living stupid lifestyles where we order fucking plastic dolls of fucking anime characters created by slave labor off Amazon every day.
Your argument does not work in reality. People will not magically stop being people and all come together and share resources in perfect communism.
Who the fuck mentioned communism?
Also the take Im arguing against is literally “we just need to stop having kids” so your meme really isnt doing what you hope it will.
Oh were you imagining this to be possible without shared resources?
Could you elaborate?
Are you trolling or just that dense?
Im not having an argument with someone arguing in bad faith. Ive learned that lesson long ago.
I’m asking you to explain how you think it would be possible for the world to sustain more people?
Espcially when it is scientifically proven we are running out of fresh water and arable land, and the oceans are acidifying to the point where we are worried about oxygen producing species dying off soon.
Oh hey, just saw your edit!
So yeah people should really stop having kids, but I’m very aware that basically nobody actually gives a shit about the environment, the future, the wellbeing of their future kids, or even just any other people.
And I’m not telling people how bad the future is going to be out of some sort of delusional belief that if everybody just listened to me and stopped having kids the world could heal and all would be well. Lmao, we’re long past that point, that was in like the 70’s, way before my time.
I’m talking about climate collapse and the world ending because we’re unequivocally fucked beyond all fixing this and seeing people bringing yet more lives into the world when the future is so bleak, is fucking horrifying.
Ah. Thats a different argument. I can understand that though I find it pessimistic. Im annoyed at people saying overconsumption is due to too many people in the world. It isnt. Its because, well, OVER consuming resources by a relatively small percent of the population.
Yeah you’re not wrong either, but like with my gripe, there’s no possible way of changing human nature to fix or even mitigate this.
So we’re both kinda just yelling into the void about how much our species sucks, haha.
Edit: Although I’m not entierly sure how you think the redistribution of wealth would work without sharing resources, ngl. If you could expand on that, I’d be very interested in reading your theories.