Anytime someone announces their pregnancy, my mind quickly goes to “hah! I knew it! You were doing the sex!”
Same issue when we announced to my in-laws that my gf was pregnant. “Are they just now getting confirmation that our relationship hasn’t just been an innocent friendship with an occasional pecking kiss?”
my ex told her brother “congrats on the creampie” when they announced their pregnancy. pretty sure it was in public with a dozen people in attendance
Lmao this is great
HappyRoadkill rarely misses.
Vixin is their best character. Their back story is perfection!
People have sex in relationships… is it that different if they’re not using protection?
Most couples don’t go around talking about their regular boning schedule over dinner.
I thought ‘boning’ would already be implied among regular adults even if they weren’t talking about it.
Not sure i understand why it’s a big deal tho.
Having a baby is completely aside from it. The sex part is going to be the most insignificant part of that baby’s life.
I can’t speak for you personally but it’s not like everyone goes around imagining our parents doing it just to ponder our existence. Or that our parents pondered every single ancestor doing it just leading to them to have a baby now.
I would hope We all know where babies come from by now. Not sure why a persons brain has to break like it’s a new concept decades after sex Ed. I mean unless your sex Ed was that bad and you just realized now that sex isn’t just a activity for passing time. If so : my condolences. Those instruments betwixt everyone’s legs do have proper function to continue the human race apparently. I know: shocking. Big whoop? There ya go. Maybe you can get back to eating dinner in peace now.
Everybody poops but I don’t talk about it over dinner
I feel like there are more adults, but not nearly as many grownups as there used to be. Or at least as many as I expected.
Dude, that’s way too fuckin’ deep a comment to read for how close to having just woke up I am. I’m going to be thinking about this all day now.
That’s a fair take.
I never really understood this take. To me it’s just a goal that they’re sharing with me. Like if they told me they just got married I’m not going to take it as them gloating about the wedding night specifically.
Prudism. That’s the take.
Rather read Oglaf any day than this pearl-clutching nonsense.
Oglaf is awesome!
I also don’t get it. By extension one should also see the same “disgusting” reaction about absolutely everyone’s parents. Because guess what, this is how we reproduce.
Yet most people aren’t shocked when they learn somebody has children.
Wait, what? There’s no way my parents ever … What!!! OMG …
I know my mother fucks, in fact she has a wildly active sex life after the divorce. Doesn’t mean I want to hear about it.
But if a pregnancy happens it would be good to know about cause that has a LOT of things related to that fact that needs to be considered.
But just trying to have a kid? Why the fuck do I want to hear about other people fucking if I’m not involved. Unless your inviting me to join keep it to your self.
I’m happy to say grats on the pregnancy after the fucking is done tho, but seriously… Phrasing and context matters people.
Well you see you’re not a massive pervert.
I agree with AyuTsukasa, I don’t understand it. And I am a massive pervert, like a serious deviant.
Unfortunately(fortunately?) you’re not as massive a pervert as the artist. I mean I don’t even know what extra long tongues have to do with reproduction - seems the character they drew is just so constantly horny they hallucinate their fetish at the slightest mention of anything related to sex.
Well I AM a massive pervert and I agree with them
Also why does having a baby automatically have to be about the sex? Yes you need sex to have one but thats not the point. People want kids.
You don’t need sex to have a kid, actually. There’s the adoption process and IVF as well. Both would also technically be “trying for a baby”, but people usually are more specific when talking about those.
Which just means sex is even more besides the point of having a baby so no need to be so weird about it.
That said It’s pretty important in sex education to acknowledge that babies can result from PIV sex.
Do you know how many years it takes to adopt a kid, assuming that you actually do get to adopt one and aren’t turned down?
That was exactly my point. It absolutely qualifies as “trying to/working on having a kid”, definitely as much or more so than tracking cycles for unprotected sex. Similar for the IVF process.
It’s work and it’s not easy.
they did not say they’re having a baby. they’re trying to have a baby. no baby yet, but they are doing things to have one
Yes, people have sex and it’s perfectly alright to talk about it. There’s nothing bad about being open in that front.
I really dont see your point.
Their point is they have sexual hangups.
my point is that it makes no sense for a couple to announce that they just started having sex and there’s no pregnancy yet. when there is now, or if they have been trying for long without success, that could be newsworthy, but otherwise it’s literally just announcing that you two started having unprotected sex.
They probably started the conversation because it’s a big topic for them. It’s a huge decision to make and they want to share it with others. They probably want to talk about the family plans they have, not the practical sex part - but if they did want to talk about sex, there’s nothing wrong about thar either.
It’s because of the term trying. They are TRYING to have a kid, which explictedly means they are fucking.
Now on the other hand if you said “we are pregnant and having a kid” that’s different. Your sharing the actual event of having the kid and that the wife is actively pregnant. This also has the secondary effect of notifying those it’s told to that the wife may need special consideration due to the pregnancy.
No one gives a fuck or wants to hear about you fucking, but once the fucking is done there is an actual actively useful purpose to telling people that there is an active pregnancy.
Phrasing matters.
People have sex and it’s ok to talk about it.
Right, and similarly, we shouldn’t tell people that we’re planning to propose. It’s ridiculous to tell your friends about the major changes you are planning for your life. Filthy animals.
/s
Get over yourself.
Phrasing matters.
Nah, sorry… if this bothers you at all, you have hangups. People talk all the time about their plans for their relationships or future, if you can’t deal with that without having sexual imagery planted into your head, that’s a skill issue. Or maybe a deeper issue that actually does need to be addressed, OCD is a branch of anxiety disorder and are often treated similarly. A lot of people live with OCD and the uninvited thoughts and images it can put in your mind without realizing it’s even a condition and just assume they’re “anxious” but get more and more obsessed with certain words, situations or imagery they can’t shut out.
It also does not explicitly mean they are fucking… IVF is pretty common.
I dunno it just seems like a reach to me. It’s just them wanting to share that they decided to take the next step in their relationship. They’re excited and just want others to be excited with them.
The strip is fine, it may not be about the “babymakers”, but about sexual averted people in the asexual spectrum.
Some people
ateare so weird about sexEdit: typo
Some people ate so weird about sex
Psst. Nearly every human child and adult are the result of a hot stonking genitalia involving mess.
Nearly?
A test tube baby delivered by C-section had very little to do with the nethers of either of its parents.
I mean, your “starting ingredients” as it were definitely came from someone’s nethers, but I suppose if you want to be pedantic.
Yuck.
…
I didn’t say stop. Carry on, don’t spare any details!!Visualize this. Where did your mum and dad originate?
The south of England.
I’m trying to picture the English southern countryside but it’s not exactly making me hot and horny 😡That’s good. It should really be getting you cold and clammy, with just the hint of the tang of a nearby sheep in the air. Soft wool sliding down skin as a cold breeze brings salt to your nose, wiping away the sheep’s scent as quickly as your grandmum wiped away the last grime from your gaffer’s stick. Slowly, she leaned over, taping the muff in place so the sound was properly focused on the scene below.
Your grandparents nude and getting at it might do the trick.
Sometimes the mommy and the daddy . . . hold hands.
🥵
It’s possible the OP was created the same way. Do they fixate on their parents having sex everyday of their existence?
These poor people probably just think the people around them are supportive and felt safe to share a life decision. Also didnt want to surprise someone. Imagine they didn’t tell you at all. Like suddenly boom there is a baby in their life.
If they were trying and had one, wouldn’t you want to think you’re a close enough friend to them that they wanted to share that news with you?
People get married and share that as life news. Do you also fixate on their honeymoon sex?
why does it gotta be so weird if someone shares baby news?
I think the joke is just that the individual’s subconscious supplied explicit imagery that the consciousness never asked for, like an intrusive thought. Doesn’t read to me as a comment on the couple sharing the info.
“Sorry, my brain did a thing”, right there.
Edit: it does not seem that the rest of the thread agrees with me lol
Yeah, that’s the joke, but it’s weird that their brain made it monstrous.
Yeah I saw that. Seemed to me like the person is struggling with thoughts about sex. there isn’t even any indication that that is definitely even the way that couple are having a child either. We don’t know if it’s IVF or adoption or it could be sex. But that should be the least important thing in that moment either way. Their friends shared some news with them. Their friends thought they were supportive and close enough to do so.
Few other posters are weirdly upset to hear when someone shares baby info like how dare someone make them think of sex. I don’t think that should be the take away over life changing news.
if they are struggling with thoughts about sex, maybe they look into why they are struggling especially over something like that considering sex Ed should have covered that well before the age of child rearing.
Bro it’s just a joke, it’s not that deep
Tell that to the people talking like they are the ones being offended what with being told someone is thinking about having a baby.
Like geez find better life goals.
This whole thing about the couple sharing they are trying to start their family comes as awfully american and cliché.
Is this a real thing in the US?
And if it is… WHY?!
What is the need for it? Is it some sort of twisted social ritual? A perverse bragging? Why not just do the deed, keep to yourself, and after 9 months present the evidence you’ve been rutting like animals in heat?
Feels to me like a very normal thing to share with people I’m very close with, just sorta sharing life updates and chatting (“I’m looking for a job”, but weightier). But yeah would be really weird outside of that.
But also, no argument about the cliche lol. The one area of human sexuality the US is apparently less prudish about - specifically intending to make babies!
ITT, lots of people with sex hangups and anti-natalist obsessions trying to rationalize being so alone and hung-up that other adults talking about their plans in life makes them feel uncomfortable.
Certainly some strong opinions and even hostility from some folks, but for myself I don’t find it very fruitful to minimize the suffering caused by isolation the way you’ve done.
It’s a big deal to experience, it’s a chronic thing many find hard or impossible to escape (whatever your opinions on the reasons for that), and I think it’s pretty gross bordering on cruel to dunk on folks that might be experiencing something so painful.
Speaking as a neurodivergent person, this is stupid. This is really stupid.
I am fine with being labeled as “cruel” if it makes you want to work harder to expand your capability to socialize and exercise your brain muscles to put yourself in uncomfortable situations.
If being around healthy couples is triggering to you, that’s massively on you and your responsibility to manage.
This is what a therapist would tell you to do, this is something you can do, and this is something you need to do. Society will not adjust to your unique problems, I am very thoroughly experienced in this hard fact of life. The world will be far, FAR more cruel to you than people on the internet telling you indirectly get your shit together.
So, I can’t decide if you’re directing this at me or just phrasing things unclearly. I’m not in the demographic you’re talking about, at all, never really have been.
I’m expressing sympathy for people who are lonely and who don’t want to be, because the way you phrased your previous set of complaints sounded, among other things, like you mocking people experiencing that. I get that people are being reactive jerks. It’s cuz they’re hurting. I’m not, so the things they are saying about it really don’t bother me (as you can see elsewhere in the thread).
The fact that you’re just doubling down, saying my POV is “stupid”, you’ve shown me all I need to see here. I’m not angry at you, I just think you have some gross views.
And btw, having neurodivergence(s) doesn’t just magically qualify you to speak for others.
And if it is… WHY?!
Religious obligation to breed.
The way you put it, it made me think about the fetish, not the act of procreation.
Why wouldn’t I want to imagine it though?
Maybe they just stole one?
“…And we want to show you how, over and over…”
“Sorry, I think my brain just did a weird thing. Again.”
“No… That actually happened.”
Starts running, doesn’t stop to pack
Maybe I don’t get to say this 'cause I’m a virgin but I’ve always thought this was a weird flex. Like, we get… we all have hormones, peeners, cooters, bootyholes, yada yada yada. Something biology something. Forget about it.
I don’t think it’s a flex. It’s a major thing happening in their lives, so it comes up in conversations about what’s going on in life…
My wife and I will never have kids, but we know it’s a huge deal to those who do, and that once most people make the decision to try, it’s the most important thing on their mind and plan for their future. So yeah, if you ask someone who is spending 80% of their time preparing for a family “what’s up?” I think it is 1000% normal and valid for them to say trying and prepping for a baby.
As it isn’t an issue of bias or prejudice or personal harm, if someone is so squeamish and prude that they can’t let a friend (or hell, a nice stranger) give them a significant life update, they should get over it or pretend.
If you can’t take someone saying grats on the unprotected raw hot and sweaty love fucking. Then you shouldn’t be telling people your having a baby.
Gotta take it like you give it. And some of us don’t hold back!
That or just realize literally no one gives a flying fuck about you having a kid unless it’s like close family and even then not always.
The whole over sharing your fucking nonstop with out protection is a weirdly American and religious thing. Really do wish it would die off already.
When you show up with a kid or a baby belly, it’s self evidence. Don’t need to share.
lmao, doesn’t lemmy have some sort of age requirement for signing up?
Oh of course, 100% agreed you can respond like that, and I’d chuckle and say thanks if it were me. Could also be a great way to bring levity to a situation that’s really difficult for some.
Also just want to add, I’m from Spain and it’s completely normal to say here. Definitely not an American thing.
Replace the slobbering with visions of climate collapse and resource depletion making the near future an apocalyptuc wasteland, and that’s basically my reaction to every baby announcment.
Ill give my shpeal on this quickly. There arent too many people on the planet. There are too many people to sustain our shitty, wasteful western lifestyles. People who advocate for a lower population are intentionally or unwittingly arguing their wasteful lifestyle is more important than the needs of others.
Its a selfish take with no basis in reality. The science is clear. The earth can sustain a lot more people if we arent all living stupid lifestyles where we order fucking plastic dolls of fucking anime characters created by slave labor off Amazon every day.
Your argument does not work in reality. People will not magically stop being people and all come together and share resources in perfect communism.
Who the fuck mentioned communism?
Also the take Im arguing against is literally “we just need to stop having kids” so your meme really isnt doing what you hope it will.
Oh hey, just saw your edit!
So yeah people should really stop having kids, but I’m very aware that basically nobody actually gives a shit about the environment, the future, the wellbeing of their future kids, or even just any other people.
And I’m not telling people how bad the future is going to be out of some sort of delusional belief that if everybody just listened to me and stopped having kids the world could heal and all would be well. Lmao, we’re long past that point, that was in like the 70’s, way before my time.
I’m talking about climate collapse and the world ending because we’re unequivocally fucked beyond all fixing this and seeing people bringing yet more lives into the world when the future is so bleak, is fucking horrifying.
Ah. Thats a different argument. I can understand that though I find it pessimistic. Im annoyed at people saying overconsumption is due to too many people in the world. It isnt. Its because, well, OVER consuming resources by a relatively small percent of the population.
Yeah you’re not wrong either, but like with my gripe, there’s no possible way of changing human nature to fix or even mitigate this.
So we’re both kinda just yelling into the void about how much our species sucks, haha.
Edit: Although I’m not entierly sure how you think the redistribution of wealth would work without sharing resources, ngl. If you could expand on that, I’d be very interested in reading your theories.
The science is clear. The earth can sustain a lot more people
Oh were you imagining this to be possible without shared resources?
Could you elaborate?
Are you trolling or just that dense?
Im not having an argument with someone arguing in bad faith. Ive learned that lesson long ago.
I’m asking you to explain how you think it would be possible for the world to sustain more people?
Espcially when it is scientifically proven we are running out of fresh water and arable land, and the oceans are acidifying to the point where we are worried about oxygen producing species dying off soon.
I haven’t seen this film so I lack the context for each character. Could you explain?
So you just hate humans?
I mean they are some pretty detestable creatures.
This is a direct copy and paste of a comment I posted yesterday as I’m too tired to retype it in different words.
Just keep in mind that you’re planning on bringing a child into a world where 90% of the planets arable land will be depleted by 2050, global fresh water demand will exceed supply by 40% by 2030 and 7 of 9 planetary boundaries have now been breached, so within the next 25 years billions of people will die in massive droughts and famines, and the oceans will be so acidic that the phytoplankton that produce 50 to 80% of the worlds oxygen won’t survive.
Oh and there’s a chance for a double Blue Ocean Event this year too.
It’s very hard not to be a misanthrope when this is the world humanity has created for itself.
I share your worries. But I don’t see how me or you personally not having kids is going to solve anything. We need a future generation to continue our fight against this.
While the right wingers and religious keep breeding like rabbits, I think our personal choice to not have children will just leave us childless and the world still fucked. Having children, at least there will be people in the future that share our hopes and dreams.
Don’t get me wrong. Opting for children is a personal choice with no good or bad answer. But it’s not so clear cut as you portray it, as I say there’s no right or wrong answer to the question.
What future? We have a century at max before the planet can no longer support whatever life is left on it.
Global heating is not slowing dowm amy time soon, we’re literally predicted to have a double blue ocean event this september. Ice reflects the sun, ocean water doesn’t. With no ice and increasing amounts of carbon dioxide in the oceans and atmosphere, there will be more and more heating and less and less oxygen as the phytoplankton die.
Arable land is what food grows in. It’s depleting fast and feeding billions of people without fertile soil to grow food, is impossible. And crops need a stable climate and temperate weather, which we are also rapidly running out of, what with the all the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and +4 by 2050 predictions.
Let the people who think god and racism will save them have 10 kids each, who cares at this point. They’re accelerating the carbon in the atmostphere and resource depletion massively, and any of them left after the first few waves of global famines and droughts can enjoy their shitty hellworld with expired canned food till the oxygen runs out and atmosphere heats beyond viable levels for life.
But people who know praying can’t change reality, having kids because they think their baby could be the chosen one who can defy physics and magically cure the world while bringing about a perfect communist utopia… lmao that’s just fucking delusional.
No chosen one, just one of many. That’s not a delusion
Your negative attitude certainly doesn’t help anything
Lets throw more fuel on the fire, one of these many bottles of petrol will surely change everything and put the fire out.
… Oh no, the fire is getting worse?
We just need to add more accelerants, one of these many bottles of petrol will surely change everything and put the fire out.
… Oh no
What a ridiculous comparison. All people are petrol to you? To improve your comparison realistically: all people and therefore all bottles are different. Some may even hold water.
Your negative attitude is what’s throwing petrol on the fire. Hopelessness leads to inaction and that’s really not what we need right now. We have the duty to hope and build a next generation if we want any other future for mankind.
You may ridicule this it, but that’s not going to change anything either.
We must go on, don’t we. We have to try.
Also a lot of people have children because it’s instinct. They feel the urge. It’s biological. Both me and my wife had this feeling. You want to create something that you will love.
I know all the arguments for not having children, but we are just animals following instinct sometimes/often.
You could adopt instead of pumping more bodies into the bone crushing machine.
I’m so glad that you considered only you two in this matter. never asking the consent of the individual if they want to be born in this shithole. They will watch you get old and die you know, but you’ll be dead so who gives fuck am I right! They will watch as the ground beneath their feet becomes uninhabitable year after year. But hey biological urge matters much more than the individual! Fuck off with this disgusting mentality. Just on this comment alone I feel the “I don’t care as long as it makes me happy” attitude bleeding through the screen.
Tell me, why must we continue to go on? We actually don’t have to try. Life becomes more freeing when we focus on the people actually here and suffering. Instead you chose to perpetuate the bone crushing machine, and not stick it to the system.
So tired of the “life is a gift mentality”. The fuck it isn’t. The only people it is a gift for are the people holding us on the chain around our neck in this coercive system. Life is suffering. Especially as the years tick by. I don’t care about the difficulties of adoption, fucking adopt. Oh but creating your own crotch gremlin is much more “loveable” than the kid yearning for ANY parents, ANY LOVE, but are never given the time of day. There was a person who I went to high school with who lived at an adoption center. He graduated with no parents. What an accomplishment to be alone for! Just to then get spit out by the system! Or abort for christ sake. Quit being selfish and for the love of god actually and I mean ACTUALLY start thinking about the children.
I feel like we disagree on a fundamental level. You feel like life isn’t a gift. I feel like it is.
Agree to disagree.
Also we don’t live in such a horrible place, we are actually thriving compared to a lot of places/countries, and we had our kids even before COVID, when the world in our immediate surroundings was a bit better and brighter. There wasn’t as much doubt as to our immediate safety back then.
Have a good one, friend. 👍 Hope your outlook on life improves eventually. ❤️
(Based on the assumption you live in america, if not we can talk about your country’s atrocities as well and what a gift to life they are)
“Agree to disagree” what a copout.
You realise we are indulging in other countries resources as we speak. Countries that use child and slave labor to harvest the very minerals for our devices. Is life a gift to those people? What about the genocide in Gaza funded by our tax dollars? What a wonderful gift! You birthed another taxpayer that Israel was just dying to have!! Oh and ICE as well! Yipee!
My friend the reason we live in a “good place” is because of the amount of imperialism perpetuated by this fucking awful country. Was life a gift to the native Americans we stole land from? Was life a gift to all the Jewish people murdered in the holocaust? Is it a gift for all those Cubans living under a hundred year ongoing embargo? WHAT A GIFT REAGAN WAS FOR THE AIDS CRISIS! What a gift childhood cancer is! Dice in which you rolled when giving birth.
What a gift life is that my body is breaking down every second of every day with not a thing to do about it. What a gift is is watching my parents get old and sick. What a gift it is that I must pay for healthcare just because I didn’t choose to be alive. What a gift it is that boss makes a dollar and I make a dime. Life was fucking abysmal before covid are you kidding? It’s just been accelerating. Don’t give me that crap, we have know about climate change since the 70s maybe even earlier. Your child will experience the water wars. The climate refugees being gunned down on our doorstep. The rising unlivable temps. Food items becoming scarce. You got your biological urge satiated though! So that is good!
Again I say, you got what you wanted and that is all that matters in the end. Not the suffering of your child. Life. is. suffering. They will suffer immensely.
Your worldview is so fucking limited it is astonishing.
Have a good one as well, stop feeding the bone crushing machine.
I really appreciate you having this rant here. I’ve done it myself so many times it’s burnt me out.
I don’t live in America, no.
I feel like you have too much anger for me to talk in a reasonable manner with you.
You can call me a cop-out and whatever ad hominem you like. I just feel like talking with you would exhausting, no offense. We don’t share the same world view because life isn’t the same all over the world. And that’s sad, but having a child in one part of the world isn’t the same as another.
Feel better, alright? I hope you cope through this. ❤️
You going to explain this to your kids?
That because you are just an animal and can’t control yourself, you forced them into existence, even though you knew how bad things were going to be?
That it’s not your fault (because you are just an animal who can’t go against your basic instinct to procreate and aren’t capable of self control) that bringing them into this world sped up man made climate collapse and resource depletion, cutting their lives even shorter and making them more brutal?
That you were aware of the imminant food, water and oxygen shortages; +4c climate, catastrophic weather, global fascism, billionaires, ww3, and the predicted human casualties from all this being in the billions; all set to happen within your offsprings lifetime, and yet you still had them because you are an animal who can’t control their urges?
Procreation is hubris, cruelty and arrogance, and you personally at this point don’t even have ignorance as an excuse.
I’m not planning on having kids, but personally it seems like being a human under bad conditions is still better than being nearly any other animal on the planet under normal conditions. I do get the argument for not reproducing to avoid your kids having to go through a worsening environment, but it’s kind of silly to try to push that perspective on others as some kind of moral issue.
Like, what good does it do to just spew venom about people wanting children? Save that for the ultra rich who already used their entire year’s allotment of sustainable carbon footprint 10 days in. Save it for the literal fascists who are actively working to prevent anyone from doing anything to slow it down.
Ultimately this planet will eventually be consumed by the sun no matter what we do. There’s no need to be a jerk about it to people who have no control over how long it all lasts in the mean time.
We had our kids before even COVID. Those were brighter times, my friend. The world sucks now, admittedly.
But we can’t undo our kids, nor do we want to, of course.
Every point I have raised has been known since before covid. I’ve been trying to get people to listen for ten years now.
Alright. People want to have kids no matter what. It’s instinct. You can’t “talk people out of” their instincts. You’ll waste your life in this endeavor, even if you would be correct. I hear your arguments on a logical level, but it doesn’t help.
Take my advice and find another goal, even if it stings. Take care! ❤️
I feel weird posting this, but: While I, personally, agree with you and feel no desire to have children, one YouTuber I very much respect does not share that opinion; even though she’s very aware of the climate crisis, she feels that cutting childbirth to tiny levels is not a safe solution.
Leftists fall for Russian propaganda too. It’s sad to see people fall into doomerism & think they’re morally superior for doing nothing
Oh cause that is so much better! Let’s keep perpetuating a system that doesn’t serve us! Oh the horror of this society ending!!! This comment feels like you see children as a tool and not human beings. You are only worth the value you create as this coercive system suggests. Pfft humans aren’t born valuable are you crazy! They have to prove it.
she feels that cutting childbirth to tiny levels is not a safe solution.
So she believes that talking about antinatalism is dangerous because the very idea of not reproducing is so contageous and harmful that anybody seeing people talking about not having kids is susceptable to it?
Or does she believe that somehow this hugely unpopular notion will be forced en masse upon everybody worldwide, and anybody found to be creating more people will be punished?
Because ngl, this youtuber doesn’t sound like she’s thought this through.
There’s a huge difference between talking about antinatalism and attacking people for fun on the internet. What you’re doing isn’t intellectual or altruistic, it’s just another flavor of narcissism and bile.
Your entire post is laden with exaggerations about my claim towards things being “forced”, and that child avoidance stances are “dangerously contagious”, which is extraordinarily dishonest and suggests I’d be wasting time talking with you.
If you want to tone it back and ask a question, fine, but don’t escalate to every disagreement being a demon.
I was trying to get you to expand her argument on why she believes antinatalism is wrong. But sure, you do you.
Btw, is this the youtuber who also said she doesn’t want to do a philosophy talk about veganism because she likes eating meat and it’s part of her cultural identity?
Edit: if it’s Philosophy Tube and you saw her video last month about having kids vs childfree- she’s the person I was talking about. Don’t base your views about what is good for the climate off something someone who won’t even do a philosophical discussion about veganism because it so goes against her morals, has said.
Then consider that the baby born may one day become the scientist with the discovery to solve the crisis.
When you are depressed/stuck in negative thought, it is easy to assume… bad things.
That baby is far more likely to grow up to be a rapist or a pedo than a physics defying wizard capable of magically rearranging how chemistry and heat work. Have you thought of that?
