I feel weird posting this, but: While I, personally, agree with you and feel no desire to have children, one YouTuber I very much respect does not share that opinion; even though she’s very aware of the climate crisis, she feels that cutting childbirth to tiny levels is not a safe solution.
Oh cause that is so much better! Let’s keep perpetuating a system that doesn’t serve us! Oh the horror of this society ending!!!
This comment feels like you see children as a tool and not human beings. You are only worth the value you create as this coercive system suggests. Pfft humans aren’t born valuable are you crazy! They have to prove it.
she feels that cutting childbirth to tiny levels is not a safe solution.
So she believes that talking about antinatalism is dangerous because the very idea of not reproducing is so contageous and harmful that anybody seeing people talking about not having kids is susceptable to it?
Or does she believe that somehow this hugely unpopular notion will be forced en masse upon everybody worldwide, and anybody found to be creating more people will be punished?
Because ngl, this youtuber doesn’t sound like she’s thought this through.
There’s a huge difference between talking about antinatalism and attacking people for fun on the internet. What you’re doing isn’t intellectual or altruistic, it’s just another flavor of narcissism and bile.
Right, because climate collapse and resource depletion aren’t real problems and each new child born isn’t massively adding to this strain on the world and speeding up the timeline.
You going to tell your kids that you knew how bad it was going to get but didn’t care because you just wanted a baby so badly?
Your entire post is laden with exaggerations about my claim towards things being “forced”, and that child avoidance stances are “dangerously contagious”, which is extraordinarily dishonest and suggests I’d be wasting time talking with you.
If you want to tone it back and ask a question, fine, but don’t escalate to every disagreement being a demon.
I was trying to get you to expand her argument on why she believes antinatalism is wrong. But sure, you do you.
Btw, is this the youtuber who also said she doesn’t want to do a philosophy talk about veganism because she likes eating meat and it’s part of her cultural identity?
Edit: if it’s Philosophy Tube and you saw her video last month about having kids vs childfree- she’s the person I was talking about. Don’t base your views about what is good for the climate off something someone who won’t even do a philosophical discussion about veganism because it so goes against her morals, has said.
I feel weird posting this, but: While I, personally, agree with you and feel no desire to have children, one YouTuber I very much respect does not share that opinion; even though she’s very aware of the climate crisis, she feels that cutting childbirth to tiny levels is not a safe solution.
Leftists fall for Russian propaganda too. It’s sad to see people fall into doomerism & think they’re morally superior for doing nothing
Oh cause that is so much better! Let’s keep perpetuating a system that doesn’t serve us! Oh the horror of this society ending!!! This comment feels like you see children as a tool and not human beings. You are only worth the value you create as this coercive system suggests. Pfft humans aren’t born valuable are you crazy! They have to prove it.
So she believes that talking about antinatalism is dangerous because the very idea of not reproducing is so contageous and harmful that anybody seeing people talking about not having kids is susceptable to it?
Or does she believe that somehow this hugely unpopular notion will be forced en masse upon everybody worldwide, and anybody found to be creating more people will be punished?
Because ngl, this youtuber doesn’t sound like she’s thought this through.
There’s a huge difference between talking about antinatalism and attacking people for fun on the internet. What you’re doing isn’t intellectual or altruistic, it’s just another flavor of narcissism and bile.
Right, because climate collapse and resource depletion aren’t real problems and each new child born isn’t massively adding to this strain on the world and speeding up the timeline.
You going to tell your kids that you knew how bad it was going to get but didn’t care because you just wanted a baby so badly?
Your entire post is laden with exaggerations about my claim towards things being “forced”, and that child avoidance stances are “dangerously contagious”, which is extraordinarily dishonest and suggests I’d be wasting time talking with you.
If you want to tone it back and ask a question, fine, but don’t escalate to every disagreement being a demon.
I was trying to get you to expand her argument on why she believes antinatalism is wrong. But sure, you do you.
Btw, is this the youtuber who also said she doesn’t want to do a philosophy talk about veganism because she likes eating meat and it’s part of her cultural identity?
Edit: if it’s Philosophy Tube and you saw her video last month about having kids vs childfree- she’s the person I was talking about. Don’t base your views about what is good for the climate off something someone who won’t even do a philosophical discussion about veganism because it so goes against her morals, has said.