As ICE agents surged into Minneapolis, they found actual road ice to be more than a match for their wits and driving skill.

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    20 hours ago

    A 4x4 will give you extra power. But not extra stopping power. My guess is they assume that they could just drive normal due to this.

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      What do you want to bet most of these guys are from the south?

      They are hilarious to watch drive in any kind of winter conditions.

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      As one would expect from the common dumbass who drives a full size SUV. And before anyone gets a bruised ego, no, not everyone who drives a full size SUV is a dumbass. But it would seem that most of them are.

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        Basically everyone in a full size suv is a dumbass. Most people use them as a daily commuter when a sedan would be just fine. Given the added purchase cost, maintenance costs, and fuel costs they might as well just be burning money.

        Reminds me of how my dad is obsessed with wanting a SUV large enough that he can tow with. He hasn’t towed anything outside of work ever. He’s going to buy a car that’s way more expensive and costs more in gas so he could theoretically one day tow something. Man doesn’t even own a trailer

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          From what I’ve seen like 90% of full size SUV drivers should’ve just gotten an Outback, 5% would’ve been fine with a mid size, and the last 5% actually need one that big.

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          but have you considered that the line wouldn’t go up if people weren’t manipulated into buying things they don’t need?

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          Wull yeah he don’t own a trailer becuz his car cain’t tow one. When he gets his bigass SUV he’s gunna tow yer mom.

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      Saw a used car with AWD for sale with the ad saying that AWD is better for acceleration, cornering AND stopping in slippery conditions.

      I honestly wanted to ring the dude up and ask how it would help with the stopping, given that it’s heavier than the RWD version of the same car and they both have exactly 4 wheels worth of braking power.

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        Manual drives are more common here, when you brake on the engine 4 wheels are decelerating instead of 2 so that could help.

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          No car only brakes with only two wheels. All four wheels are used when the brake pedal is pressed.

          And in any case, using brakes with ABS is still better than engine braking without ABS when stopping in any condition, but especially on snow or ice

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          I’m not an expert or anything, but wouldn’t engine breaking have the same breaking force (just spread across all wheels) for 4 wheel drive as 2 wheel drive? Unlike break pads, where it’s one per wheel, engine breaking will all be running through the same engine.

          Still, having it one 4 instead of 2 has advantages, but I don’t think it’d be more force.

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          But engine braking doesn’t stop your car fast enough to even worry about traction much. And if you do lose traction with engine braking, I don’t think ABS can help you like with actual braking.

          It was also xDrive so the front axle is only powered when rear wheels start slipping AFAIK.