Hey crew! The new Star Trek show Starfleet Academy is starting this week, and it’s already sparking some heated/controversial discussions online. While opinions may differ, let’s keep our community a safe space where everyone can enjoy the series without fear of harassment or attacks.
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I’m way over the “this Trek is woke” stuff. All Trek is woke. Always was. And no one is forced to watch it.
The issue I’ve had with newer Treks is they just don’t feel like Trek, but this is more about style and writing than anything.
I’m cautiously optimistic that Starfleet Academy being so far into the future will make me accept it more. Fewer opportunities to change canon, and lots more possibilities for novel storytelling. I don’t want to see another Jim Kirk. I want new Trek.
I’ll agree that Star Trek at its best has always had a progressive stance that challenges societal expectations, but the problem with nuTrek (imo) is that the writing isn’t challenging expectations reflecting society at large, or examining it’s own biases, it’s just performative and pandering. It doesn’t seem to be written to encourage questioning as much as it appeals to nostalgia or engage in pleading the “right social perspective” that Hollywood happens to espouse that week. For God’s sake Elon was one of the “innovators” used as an example in DISCO when SpaceX happened to be popular.
I think I agree with this. But in that sense, I’d factor it out as just more bad writing, since that’s the common thread. The implication is that if the writing were better, people wouldn’t complain about either the show or the wokeism, which seems plausible.
If anything, I’d argue it to have the reverse problem, where it’s been gradually less progressive over time, since the network isn’t as willing to take risks with the property, now it’s a relatively safe cash cow.
Where’s the Star Trek show that people threaten to pull off the air because it is at the social cutting edge?
Yeah this is a great point.
Also, Star Trek is owned by MAGA now. It’s aimed directly at their most desirable and important recruiting demographic, so they are going to transition it to be a mouthpiece for the Conservative Propaganda Machine.
My issue is primarily the poor writing. SNW was the bright spot among the live action new shows, but it really feels like it’s nosediving in terms of writing quality.
I don’t expect new Trek to be the same as 90’s Trek, but it really feels like it’s written by writers who are not all that interested in Trek and just want to make a contemporary drama with a delta on it. Earlier series had a “period piece set in the future” vibe that I really miss.
Yes, I’ve felt similarly. I really enjoyed SNW when it first started, and now it feels like some weird soap opera with Spock half the time.
The Orville feels far more like Star Trek than any modern Star Trek, and it’s strange, because Paramount could totally pull it off if they put the right people on the team.