The Trump administration will revoke temporary protected status for thousands of Somali nationals in the United States in the face of White House claims that the diaspora community in Minnesota participated in widespread fraud, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Tuesday.
Noem told Fox News that Somalis with temporary protected status would be required to leave the country by March 17. She argued that conditions in Somalia have improved and added that “allowing Somali nationals to remain temporarily in the United States is contrary to our national interest. We are putting Americans first.”
In a separate social media post, the Department of Homeland Security wrote: “Our message is clear. Go back to your own country, or we’ll send you back ourselves.”
The move would affect thousands of Somalis in the United States, though not the majority of the U.S. Somali community, many of which are already permanent residents or U.S. citizens. Yet the announcement comes as the federal government ramps up its immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota, the state with the largest Somali population in the United States.
Why would you want a law that forces a business run by bigots or racists to hire you despite hating you for your skin color? Don’t you think they’ll just find other, legal ways to mistreat you or discriminate against you? And if you fail, they’ll feel more righteous about their bigotry, but if you succeed, they’ll resent you for that.
I’d honestly rather just have them tell me upfront if they’re racist, that way I won’t waste my time with them.
The problem with that logic is that you’re assuming you’ll just find another job. What if you lived in a city that was super crazy liberal, and no one was hiring you because you were straight. Unfortunately you still need a job to get by, and you can’t afford to move if you don’t have a job.
But hey, about mistreating you? There’s laws about that, too, all part of the package deal that comes with not hiring you based on race. With strict enough penalties companies would rather their employees not be bigots because they don’t want to go to court.
A side effect of all this is that bigotry dies in people’s hearts when they are exposed to the people they are bigoted against. If there was someone who hated Americans, but then got to actually meet and talk to one and work with one, they would realize Americans aren’t all bad and can be pretty nice and chill. So making sure people don’t hire based on race helps eliminate racism and keeps things fair for everyone, which helps business innovate by giving people a chance.
Oh, is that so? Well, at least you seem to understand that bigotry can cut both ways. That’s more than most people here seem to be willing to acknowledge.
That said, if I was faced with that sort of situation, I would to whatever I can to find a way to move somewhere else where I’m welcome.
You can mistreat people in subtle ways that are difficult to sue over or prove in court. Like, giving people bad hours, or passing them over for promotions.
Yes, I do believe this CAN work, but it generally requires at least a shred of willingness to participate. You cannot simply force someone into accepting someone they don’t like. That sounds sounds a hell of a lot like raping your way into a relationship, don’t you think?
I don’t think, because I don’t think getting people to accept other people is anything like rape.
So you say that you get that bigotry can cut both ways, basically people can be bigoted towards anyone, and can happen pretty much anywhere. So one of the only things we can do is make it so bigots can’t use their power to hurt people they hate, regardless of who they hate. That’s why we have laws against things like, hitting each other and murder. We also have other laws to keep people from discriminating when doing business and hiring people. I think that those are laws that you are in favor of, because you don’t want people to discriminate against you.
I’m definitely in favor of laws against rape, assault, theft, and murder, but I think bigotry and discrimination are simply too vague a charge to be properly defined or enforced, and will always defeat themselves in the long run anyways.
Say someone is running an Indian restaurant, should they be forced to hire white people? Would you trust that you’re getting authentic Indian food if either the chef, or even the serving staff was predominantly Chinese? Would you go to a Chinese restaurant run by Mexicans an expect authentic Chinese cuisine, or a Mexican restaurant run by white people, and expect proper, authentic cuisine?
All of these examples sound extremely racist on the surface, but let’s be honest, chances are extremely high that someone of the same ethnicity is vastly more qualified to work there than someone who’s not, because they simply understand the culture and the flavors better. And of course there are always counterexamples, but those are the exception rather than the norm.
Meritocracy simply means having to earn your laurels by putting in effort and proving yourself. You don’t need to legislate that because cream rises to the top all by itself. It doesn’t rise any faster because there are laws requiring it to do so, just like the sun doesn’t rise any faster if you make a law requiring it to do so.