To cherry pick everything out of the article and ‘ACAB’ that is pretty silly. That’s a very reasonable comment because literally zero border protections would be a disaster. I mean sure disband ICE, but you’ll need someone at the airports and checking containers etc.
ICE is not the same thing as CBP (customs and border protection). Getting rid of ICE would not leave your border ‘unprotected’. This kind of ignorant shit is exactly why you Americans are in this fucking situation.
I’m not fucking American, my apologies for not knowing the intricacies of American law enforcement/federal agencies. Just remember, assuming makes an ass out of you and me. But really, it’s like you 99%.
I mean Canada at least doesn’t have a special armed paramilitary force that goes around seeking people to deport. If someone is in the country illegally and acting improperly someone will notice and inform the police but as far as I’m aware there’s nobody raiding culturally diverse restaurants seeking to ruin someone’s life.
That seems like a law enforcement issue, and boy howdy do we have people for that already!
Like if you’re arrested and you are in the country illegally, you could be deported after you’ve been processed and/or served a sentence. That’s already been a thing for a long time. And we could argue in good faith about what the most fair and just policies are surrounding that.
(aside: populations in the developed world are not growing like they used to, and are shrinking in many places. The US is driving away our most respected minds and our most disrespected laborers RIGHT when other nations are going to start treating them even better than before. So even aside from the “be kind to humans” angle it’s pretty strategically stupid.)
But what the United States is supposed to be about, as in the Constitution and amendments, is that decent people just get to do their thing to just live life and pursue happiness. You don’t get searched or evaluated or judged unless you break the laws we collectively built. Therefore, nobody would going door to door checking people’s papers.
The tools that law enforcement would need in order to simply deport all people here illegally are the kinds of things our laws were designed to prevent from ever existing!
I think I would agree with the “liberty” side of that one. It seems much less bad for my family that some folks in town working tough jobs are “ILLeGaL” versus living in a surveillance-state, police-state, fascist dictatorship.
This is how the Conservative Propaganda Machine finds.people with poor Critical Thinking Skills and separates them from the herd, and starts working on them. I’m this case, they are prepared to accept whatever ICE does to us, because they’ve been told it will be far worse if ICE goes away.
Was there NOTHING at the border before ICE? Was nobody being stopped at the border before?
Of course not, Border Patrol has been a thing forever, long before ICE was around. If ICE goes away, then we simply rely on the Border patrol, like we’ve always done.
You could argue that they could do a better job, but sending armed invaders to attack our cities is not the better job they should be doing.
To cherry pick everything out of the article and ‘ACAB’ that is pretty silly. That’s a very reasonable comment because literally zero border protections would be a disaster. I mean sure disband ICE, but you’ll need someone at the airports and checking containers etc.
ICE is not the same thing as CBP (customs and border protection). Getting rid of ICE would not leave your border ‘unprotected’. This kind of ignorant shit is exactly why you Americans are in this fucking situation.
I’m not fucking American, my apologies for not knowing the intricacies of American law enforcement/federal agencies. Just remember, assuming makes an ass out of you and me. But really, it’s like you 99%.
We still need people doing ICE’s former job. Bet there’s not a country on the planet that has zero internal immigration enforcement mechanisms.
I mean Canada at least doesn’t have a special armed paramilitary force that goes around seeking people to deport. If someone is in the country illegally and acting improperly someone will notice and inform the police but as far as I’m aware there’s nobody raiding culturally diverse restaurants seeking to ruin someone’s life.
That seems like a law enforcement issue, and boy howdy do we have people for that already!
Like if you’re arrested and you are in the country illegally, you could be deported after you’ve been processed and/or served a sentence. That’s already been a thing for a long time. And we could argue in good faith about what the most fair and just policies are surrounding that.
(aside: populations in the developed world are not growing like they used to, and are shrinking in many places. The US is driving away our most respected minds and our most disrespected laborers RIGHT when other nations are going to start treating them even better than before. So even aside from the “be kind to humans” angle it’s pretty strategically stupid.)
But what the United States is supposed to be about, as in the Constitution and amendments, is that decent people just get to do their thing to just live life and pursue happiness. You don’t get searched or evaluated or judged unless you break the laws we collectively built. Therefore, nobody would going door to door checking people’s papers.
The tools that law enforcement would need in order to simply deport all people here illegally are the kinds of things our laws were designed to prevent from ever existing!
I think I would agree with the “liberty” side of that one. It seems much less bad for my family that some folks in town working tough jobs are “ILLeGaL” versus living in a surveillance-state, police-state, fascist dictatorship.
This is how the Conservative Propaganda Machine finds.people with poor Critical Thinking Skills and separates them from the herd, and starts working on them. I’m this case, they are prepared to accept whatever ICE does to us, because they’ve been told it will be far worse if ICE goes away.
Was there NOTHING at the border before ICE? Was nobody being stopped at the border before?
Of course not, Border Patrol has been a thing forever, long before ICE was around. If ICE goes away, then we simply rely on the Border patrol, like we’ve always done.
You could argue that they could do a better job, but sending armed invaders to attack our cities is not the better job they should be doing.
Edited out an explitive that was undeserved.
I disagree, Open borders is the future.
Fair, may be, but in the current climate, I’m not keen on it.