I’ve looked at multiple angles, and Grey Coat (gray ballcap, blue jeans, tan boots) doesn’t appear to be the initial shooter. The clip here: https://crimesofice.org/media/6975325496c07.mp4 immediately before the first rapport of gunfire does not show either muzzle flash or observable slide action from/on his pistol. I think that it was from someone still inside the dogpile.
Oh shit, that tan object that spills out of the dogpile, that was Pretti’s pistol (highlighted for context)? I’d assumed that it was some miscellaneous piece of kit from one of the ICE goons that had been knocked loose.
Ah, sorry, I think that I misunderstood. You think that ICE Grey Coat collected the pistol that had been disarmed from Mr. Pretti? I was under the impression that he was holding his service weapon. I’m watching the above clip on a 0:02 repeat before the first firearm retort, and can just barely make out distortion extending out from the muzzle in the middle of the frame (0:39-0:40). I think that he may indeed have fired the first round, setting the rest of the event in motion.
I don’t know if he fired it or not. But watch, the guy in the gray coat goes into the pile and in this video you can see very clearly that both hands are empty. I see at no point that he reaches for his holster. He leaves with a gun.
That would seem to track as things stand now. I was thinking that he’d simply drawn his sidearm, but it makes much more sense for him to have grabbed Mr. Pretti’s pistol once he’d been disarmed.
I dont see the victimz handgun…
Watch the gray coat that runs away from the scene as shots go off.
I’ve looked at multiple angles, and Grey Coat (gray ballcap, blue jeans, tan boots) doesn’t appear to be the initial shooter. The clip here: https://crimesofice.org/media/6975325496c07.mp4 immediately before the first rapport of gunfire does not show either muzzle flash or observable slide action from/on his pistol. I think that it was from someone still inside the dogpile.
Yeah, I’m just saying gray coat disarmed him is all
Oh shit, that tan object that spills out of the dogpile, that was Pretti’s pistol (highlighted for context)? I’d assumed that it was some miscellaneous piece of kit from one of the ICE goons that had been knocked loose.
No. I think it’s the pistol that gray coat was holding as he ran.
Ah, sorry, I think that I misunderstood. You think that ICE Grey Coat collected the pistol that had been disarmed from Mr. Pretti? I was under the impression that he was holding his service weapon. I’m watching the above clip on a 0:02 repeat before the first firearm retort, and can just barely make out distortion extending out from the muzzle in the middle of the frame (0:39-0:40). I think that he may indeed have fired the first round, setting the rest of the event in motion.
I don’t know if he fired it or not. But watch, the guy in the gray coat goes into the pile and in this video you can see very clearly that both hands are empty. I see at no point that he reaches for his holster. He leaves with a gun.
That would seem to track as things stand now. I was thinking that he’d simply drawn his sidearm, but it makes much more sense for him to have grabbed Mr. Pretti’s pistol once he’d been disarmed.
oh shit