If they can wait for GTA VI, rumour has it that baby loves it when CJ does long circuits of the rail system, and the same trick should still work…

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If they can wait for GTA VI, rumour has it that baby loves it when CJ does long circuits of the rail system, and the same trick should still work…



Spot on, some of the new footage, particularly the slowed, zoomed and stabilized version of the events recorded by Pink Coat Woman are particularly clear. Grey Coat ICE disarmed Mr. Pretty just seconds before Black Beanie ICE shot him in the back. This shit is unforgivable.


It is, this is from the slowed and stabilized version produced earlier today.


That would seem to track as things stand now. I was thinking that he’d simply drawn his sidearm, but it makes much more sense for him to have grabbed Mr. Pretti’s pistol once he’d been disarmed.


I see him now, I’ve been reviewing comments on other threads and reviewing the clips. It appears as though he may have been the one who first discharged a firearm; https://media.thelemmy.club/rapidsave.com_3rd_angle_of_todays_shooting-rqrfifu9mcfg1.mp4
In watching the above clip on a 0:02 repeat before the first firearm retort, and can just barely make out distortion extending out from the muzzle in the middle of the frame (0:39-0:40). I think that Grey Coat ICE may indeed have fired the first round, setting the rest of the event in motion.


Ah, sorry, I think that I misunderstood. You think that ICE Grey Coat collected the pistol that had been disarmed from Mr. Pretti? I was under the impression that he was holding his service weapon. I’m watching the above clip on a 0:02 repeat before the first firearm retort, and can just barely make out distortion extending out from the muzzle in the middle of the frame (0:39-0:40). I think that he may indeed have fired the first round, setting the rest of the event in motion.


That’s good to know, narrows it down at the very least.


Oh shit, that tan object that spills out of the dogpile, that was Pretti’s pistol (highlighted for context)? I’d assumed that it was some miscellaneous piece of kit from one of the ICE goons that had been knocked loose.



I’ve taken a close look at the footage available, and although he’s one of several ICE agents with a pistol unholstered, his doesn’t appear to be the one initially discharged (at least from what I’m able to observe).


I’m not forgetting it at all, just commenting on the situation more immediately applicable to the pigs murdering him. Make of that what you will, but I’m not boosting ICE or going to bat trying to justify their killing.


I’ve looked at multiple angles, and Grey Coat (gray ballcap, blue jeans, tan boots) doesn’t appear to be the initial shooter. The clip here: https://crimesofice.org/media/6975325496c07.mp4 immediately before the first rapport of gunfire does not show either muzzle flash or observable slide action from/on his pistol. I think that it was from someone still inside the dogpile.


Can you ID a particular officer (coat colour), and the version of the incident that you saw this? I’ve been going through the multiple versions trying to figure out who first discharged their firearm but aren’t seeing what you are.


The closest for sure, you can see her moving back and forth on the sidewalk across the street in the first video filmed from inside the donut shop (woman in pink coat).


I saw that too, but somehow despite Pink Coat Woman’s close proximity, I wasn’t able to observe any muzzle flashes and figure out definitively which ICE agent fired the first shot.


This is the third angle that I’ve seen of the killing, and this is looking more and more like a disarmament panic, or feigned disarmament panic to me. If Mr. Pretti lost control of his holstered/stowed pistol during the dogpile, it may have served as an excuse by ICE agents to shoot him.
If he was in fact carrying a licensed conceal carry pistol (as posted by LEO account press releases) during his arrest, it seems to have come loose due to no fault of his own - note both hands clenched against pavement immediately before murder by ICE. This is, of course, assuming that the information/photograph of the pistol aren’t police disinformation.
At the 0:53 mark of the footage taken from the other side of the street (Pink Coat Woman: https://lemmy.world/post/42107309), one of the agents can be heard yelling “He’s got a gun! Gun!” about 1 second before one shot is heard, followed by three shots in quick succession, followed by one of them mag-dumping Mr. Pretti. This happens as he is nearly prone, with two different agents on their knee(s) attempting to wrestle him under control/arrest him, several milling around in various armed states (pepper stray canisters or pistols holstered/drawn), on his knees and forearms with his hands clenched closed as mentioned previously. This is a tragic illustration of the poor training standards of ICE recruits, as at least one of them appears to have either panicked and misfired (poor trigger discipline), or reacted to the declaration of an uncontrolled firearm by immediately executing Mr. Pretti.


Good to know, I’ll pass along the information to any Apple device users that I know. Do you have any idea when that feature was implemented (iPhone 1, 2, 3, 13)?


Sound advice, PIN is where it’s at. I wouldn’t recommend to anyone having biometric access enabled, face scan or otherwise, whether or not they’re planning to attend a demonstration.


Not necessarily. I’ve seen commentary from earlier this week which indicated that deleted video on an arrestee’s phone cannot be permanently scrubbed without authorized access (face scan, possibly fingerprint unlock?). The poster from Long Island Audit was featured on TYT, and was able to recover footage from their phone’s Recently Deleted section: https://youtu.be/nrekKVXlsNY?t=295


slow clapping Well done, great work, ICE. Couldn’t have done it without you, you’re all invaluable members of the team. /s

Solid work, good on you.