• razen@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Wow people are just getting killed by the state in broad daylight without any consequence. Americans do live killing.

  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
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    11 hours ago

    Here it’s very clearly visible that grey-jacket, red/grey-cap guy has the victim’s gun secured already. At 0:39.

    That must also be why he leaves the altercation, to get the gun away. Theoretically a good plan.

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      Watch his hands. They are consistently up by his head, shielding his face. He never reached in any way until the gun was already gone, by which time I believe he’s already reaching for what is presumably the first gunshot.

      This is an execution. He never posed any risk. He was actively defending his face from getting pushed into the ground.

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        7 hours ago

        Pretti never gave any indication he intended to shoot back. He was complying when they disarmed and executed him.

        No need to alter reality.

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    15 hours ago

    Thank god for the fucking Internet and these heros recording this shit. If it were the 90s or earlier, we’d be at the behest of legacy media and the government for our information.

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    22 hours ago

    You’ll notice the thing that set them off was he got between them and the woman they were trying to beat up.

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      1 day ago

      I saw that too, but somehow despite Pink Coat Woman’s close proximity, I wasn’t able to observe any muzzle flashes and figure out definitively which ICE agent fired the first shot.

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        The guy that shot him(black beanie toward the backl pushed away the guy that was taking his gun(gray jacket). He could clearly see he had a gun, so he knew it was okay to murder him. As you see all they have to do is tweet a picture of the gun and the cult believes he deserved to be executed.

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          21 hours ago

          Spot on, some of the new footage, particularly the slowed, zoomed and stabilized version of the events recorded by Pink Coat Woman are particularly clear. Grey Coat ICE disarmed Mr. Pretty just seconds before Black Beanie ICE shot him in the back. This shit is unforgivable.

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          Not sure if there was intent, another possibility is that he pulled the trigger accidentally (you can see the recoil on his arm) and freaked out and just unloaded on him. It’s in the video of the lady walking on the sidewalk across from this POV

          Edit: watching the annotated video again makes ne wonder if it was intentional (guy dies not seem to be freaking out), not sure why would he think he’d gain from killing him https://files.catbox.moe/k3frh0.mp4 (content warning)

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    18 hours ago

    It‘s interesting to see if the US are equipped to deal with this. People have been bombed for having elected less oppresive governments.

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    At some point this is going to lead to some form of civil war if it keeps escalating like this.

    Well I hope the brown shirts get what they deserve.

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      23 hours ago

      It has already started. They are attacking us. They are actively killing citizens in the streets. Trump’s paramilitary police are an invasion force and their target is dissenting Americans.

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        9 hours ago

        I get that but there is no armed civil resistance towards the government yet. It is still at the stage where the citizens are resisting peacefully.

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        17 hours ago

        Are they currently just focused in Minneapolis or are they active in other cities? How big is their force we need an analysis on that

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          Minnesota is definitely where they are behaving the worst at the moment. Trump has a tiny little hate boner for Walz. They have goons in several states though Minneapolis is clearly where they are drawing the most attention. ICE is still not a very big force, but they have been told that they can act with impunity. There’s some thousands of them, but this is a nation of over 300 million.

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    His hands were out in front of his head, clasped together. This directly contradicts the DHS statement that he reached for a weapon.

    Not that that’s surprising, but it needs to be said.

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      Had this guy actually reached for his gun and shot all the ice agents, then the US government would claim his innocence because at this point their just have to lie pathologically

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        Nevermind the fact that it would take superhuman skill to shoot six armed attackers before one or more of them blow you away…

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              Because that’s who you give that kind of order to. A guy you KNOW will follow through. Can’t count on one of these new Apes, they might freeze up or shoot themselves. This is a job for a professional.

              And murderer Jonathan Ross was a veteran professional as well.

              A pattern is emerging. The new guys like fists and feet, the vets still like their guns. They’ve been itching to use them, and it’s finally looking like it’s Safeties Off.

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            At point blank range, it doesn’t matter. Especially if they’re standing on all sides of you, and if they’re wearing plate carriers thus reducing their target surface forcing you take an extra second or two to aim…

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    We need all the angles. Even this one it is hard to tell what is going on.

    It’s clear this dude didn’t deserve to die though. These fuckers are out here doing exactly what they are meant to do.

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      Yeah. Unfortunately I’ve seen about 4 angles and this is the best as far as I can tell.

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          Yeah, it’s about as good as this one, but I think you see the victims hands more and more clearly see one of the ICE goons take the handgun away (from his belt, not his hands) before the shots.

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            It almost looks like the guy in gray accidentally fired a shot into the ground when he walked away that set the others off .

            Edit: which obviously means jack shit in relation to the entire killing.

              • Komodo Rodeo@lemmy.world
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                Can you ID a particular officer (coat colour), and the version of the incident that you saw this? I’ve been going through the multiple versions trying to figure out who first discharged their firearm but aren’t seeing what you are.

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                  He’s the one running toward the camera in the link I had at around the 21 seconds mark before running off to the right of the camera-man. He’s wearing a light gray coat and a similar colored baseball cap.

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        The closest for sure, you can see her moving back and forth on the sidewalk across the street in the first video filmed from inside the donut shop (woman in pink coat).