Yeah, it’s about as good as this one, but I think you see the victims hands more and more clearly see one of the ICE goons take the handgun away (from his belt, not his hands) before the shots.
Can you ID a particular officer (coat colour), and the version of the incident that you saw this? I’ve been going through the multiple versions trying to figure out who first discharged their firearm but aren’t seeing what you are.
He’s the one running toward the camera in the link I had at around the 21 seconds mark before running off to the right of the camera-man. He’s wearing a light gray coat and a similar colored baseball cap.
In watching the above clip on a 0:02 repeat before the first firearm retort, and can just barely make out distortion extending out from the muzzle in the middle of the frame (0:39-0:40). I think that Grey Coat ICE may indeed have fired the first round, setting the rest of the event in motion.
I’ve looked at multiple angles, and Grey Coat (gray ballcap, blue jeans, tan boots) doesn’t appear to be the initial shooter. The clip here: https://crimesofice.org/media/6975325496c07.mp4 immediately before the first rapport of gunfire does not show either muzzle flash or observable slide action from/on his pistol. I think that it was from someone still inside the dogpile.
Oh shit, that tan object that spills out of the dogpile, that was Pretti’s pistol (highlighted for context)? I’d assumed that it was some miscellaneous piece of kit from one of the ICE goons that had been knocked loose.
Ah, sorry, I think that I misunderstood. You think that ICE Grey Coat collected the pistol that had been disarmed from Mr. Pretti? I was under the impression that he was holding his service weapon. I’m watching the above clip on a 0:02 repeat before the first firearm retort, and can just barely make out distortion extending out from the muzzle in the middle of the frame (0:39-0:40). I think that he may indeed have fired the first round, setting the rest of the event in motion.
Lady in Pink’s video is pretty damn clear
Yeah, it’s about as good as this one, but I think you see the victims hands more and more clearly see one of the ICE goons take the handgun away (from his belt, not his hands) before the shots.
It almost looks like the guy in gray accidentally fired a shot into the ground when he walked away that set the others off .
Edit: which obviously means jack shit in relation to the entire killing.
The angle they have on Crimes of ICE shows this, too. Guy runs off with a gun to the ground, fires, then looks around like “Oh shit”.
Can you ID a particular officer (coat colour), and the version of the incident that you saw this? I’ve been going through the multiple versions trying to figure out who first discharged their firearm but aren’t seeing what you are.
He’s the one running toward the camera in the link I had at around the 21 seconds mark before running off to the right of the camera-man. He’s wearing a light gray coat and a similar colored baseball cap.
I see him now, I’ve been reviewing comments on other threads and reviewing the clips. It appears as though he may have been the one who first discharged a firearm; https://media.thelemmy.club/rapidsave.com_3rd_angle_of_todays_shooting-rqrfifu9mcfg1.mp4
In watching the above clip on a 0:02 repeat before the first firearm retort, and can just barely make out distortion extending out from the muzzle in the middle of the frame (0:39-0:40). I think that Grey Coat ICE may indeed have fired the first round, setting the rest of the event in motion.
I dont see the victimz handgun…
Watch the gray coat that runs away from the scene as shots go off.
I’ve looked at multiple angles, and Grey Coat (gray ballcap, blue jeans, tan boots) doesn’t appear to be the initial shooter. The clip here: https://crimesofice.org/media/6975325496c07.mp4 immediately before the first rapport of gunfire does not show either muzzle flash or observable slide action from/on his pistol. I think that it was from someone still inside the dogpile.
Yeah, I’m just saying gray coat disarmed him is all
Oh shit, that tan object that spills out of the dogpile, that was Pretti’s pistol (highlighted for context)? I’d assumed that it was some miscellaneous piece of kit from one of the ICE goons that had been knocked loose.
No. I think it’s the pistol that gray coat was holding as he ran.
Ah, sorry, I think that I misunderstood. You think that ICE Grey Coat collected the pistol that had been disarmed from Mr. Pretti? I was under the impression that he was holding his service weapon. I’m watching the above clip on a 0:02 repeat before the first firearm retort, and can just barely make out distortion extending out from the muzzle in the middle of the frame (0:39-0:40). I think that he may indeed have fired the first round, setting the rest of the event in motion.
oh shit