This is the third angle that I’ve seen of the killing, and this is looking more and more like a disarmament panic, or feigned disarmament panic to me. If Mr. Pretti lost control of his holstered/stowed pistol during the dogpile, it may have served as an excuse by ICE agents to shoot him.
If he was in fact carrying a licensed conceal carry pistol (as posted by LEO account press releases) during his arrest, it seems to have come loose due to no fault of his own - note both hands clenched against pavement immediately before murder by ICE. This is, of course, assuming that the information/photograph of the pistol aren’t police disinformation.
At the 0:53 mark of the footage taken from the other side of the street (Pink Coat Woman: https://lemmy.world/post/42107309), one of the agents can be heard yelling “He’s got a gun! Gun!” about 1 second before one shot is heard, followed by three shots in quick succession, followed by one of them mag-dumping Mr. Pretti. This happens as he is nearly prone, with two different agents on their knee(s) attempting to wrestle him under control/arrest him, several milling around in various armed states (pepper stray canisters or pistols holstered/drawn), on his knees and forearms with his hands clenched closed as mentioned previously. This is a tragic illustration of the poor training standards of ICE recruits, as at least one of them appears to have either panicked and misfired (poor trigger discipline), or reacted to the declaration of an uncontrolled firearm by immediately executing Mr. Pretti.
You forgot the whole part about ICE assaulting a women, Mr. Pretti catching her, and then trying to help her as she is slipping on the ground, and then the same ICE shithead, sprays Mr. Pretti with pepper spray while still trying to help the assaulted woman up. None of it was justified. Mr. Pretti made no antagonistic movements prior to being assaulted and executed by ICE.
I’m not forgetting it at all, just commenting on the situation more immediately applicable to the pigs murdering him. Make of that what you will, but I’m not boosting ICE or going to bat trying to justify their killing.
I think it’s pretty clear that Mr. Pretti was disarmed by the agent in the gray coat. You clearly see both of his hands EMPTY as he goes into the pile, then you see him with a handgun pulling away just before the shots. It does not appear that he reached for a holster at any point.
I’ve taken a close look at the footage available, and although he’s one of several ICE agents with a pistol unholstered, his doesn’t appear to be the one initially discharged (at least from what I’m able to observe).
This is the third angle that I’ve seen of the killing, and this is looking more and more like a disarmament panic, or feigned disarmament panic to me. If Mr. Pretti lost control of his holstered/stowed pistol during the dogpile, it may have served as an excuse by ICE agents to shoot him.
If he was in fact carrying a licensed conceal carry pistol (as posted by LEO account press releases) during his arrest, it seems to have come loose due to no fault of his own - note both hands clenched against pavement immediately before murder by ICE. This is, of course, assuming that the information/photograph of the pistol aren’t police disinformation.
At the 0:53 mark of the footage taken from the other side of the street (Pink Coat Woman: https://lemmy.world/post/42107309), one of the agents can be heard yelling “He’s got a gun! Gun!” about 1 second before one shot is heard, followed by three shots in quick succession, followed by one of them mag-dumping Mr. Pretti. This happens as he is nearly prone, with two different agents on their knee(s) attempting to wrestle him under control/arrest him, several milling around in various armed states (pepper stray canisters or pistols holstered/drawn), on his knees and forearms with his hands clenched closed as mentioned previously. This is a tragic illustration of the poor training standards of ICE recruits, as at least one of them appears to have either panicked and misfired (poor trigger discipline), or reacted to the declaration of an uncontrolled firearm by immediately executing Mr. Pretti.
I’ve watch multiple angles and to me it looks like fascism
Yes, as surely as it was yesterday, the week and month beforehand.
You forgot the whole part about ICE assaulting a women, Mr. Pretti catching her, and then trying to help her as she is slipping on the ground, and then the same ICE shithead, sprays Mr. Pretti with pepper spray while still trying to help the assaulted woman up. None of it was justified. Mr. Pretti made no antagonistic movements prior to being assaulted and executed by ICE.
I’m not forgetting it at all, just commenting on the situation more immediately applicable to the pigs murdering him. Make of that what you will, but I’m not boosting ICE or going to bat trying to justify their killing.
I think it’s pretty clear that Mr. Pretti was disarmed by the agent in the gray coat. You clearly see both of his hands EMPTY as he goes into the pile, then you see him with a handgun pulling away just before the shots. It does not appear that he reached for a holster at any point.
I’ve taken a close look at the footage available, and although he’s one of several ICE agents with a pistol unholstered, his doesn’t appear to be the one initially discharged (at least from what I’m able to observe).