• arrow74@lemmy.zip
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    11 hours ago

    We’re kinda at the do nothing and be murdered or do something and then maybe get killed for it stage.

    Starting to seem like trying is the better option

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      I mean on the other hand, Trump kind of does want violent resistance to spring up so provide the Reichstag burning he’s been waiting for to amplify the cracking down. I mean, they kinda already had the Charlie Kirk shooting, and he kind of already can institute martial law whenever (it’s not constitutional but neither has been a single thing he’s done lately), and martial law won’t really lead to anything on its own anyway… I dunno, let’s keep resisting in effective ways. One idea is to make ICE’s life hell so they loathe their jobs and go home.

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        11 hours ago

        If we really honestly can’t figure out a better plan than to get our little glocks and go plink at em, then okay. But we’d have to be a whole lot dumber than I think we are.

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          10 hours ago

          I’m all ears on how your going to reason with might makes right peole to give up their power

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            Um, elections and proper application of the law.

            Everyone here is so up their own butt about how it’s all corrupt and everything’s over man (after shitting on Harris for five months straight) but that’s the right way to do it.

            If you just need to murder some brownshirts and want to take the consequences, then that’s always an option. It’s just not the best option. It’s not even a good option.

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              The elections they’re talking about canceling and the rule of law that they are completely ignoring.

              So while you’re waiting for that to work the rest of us need to figure out how to actually get something done.

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              Um, how many more need to get murdered by the government before you come up with something even the slightest bit more effective than “sit on our asses and keep getting murdered”?

              We’re long past the third box of liberty, which (barring whatever incredible plan you’re working on) leaves us with either the fourth box, or just accept people being murdered.

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          If the money is corrupting all players and steering the agenda, why not go after it? When we strike directly at agents of force, then we are directly attacking family and friends of a multitude of others, including of folks that may be trying to reconcile things. It will rile up his base into murder frenzy. Many undecided (dummies) will get swept up in the frenzy, because they’ll defer thinking to others around them. The rabid base have few relationships with their oligarch masters.

          Lobotomize their think tanks.

          Cut out the tongues of their media propagandists.

          Bring any and all levels of direct action against the class that is causing this.