• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    “I resisted calling it fascism until it was too late and people were dying at the hands of monsters.”

    Get fucked. It was fascism when it was George Floyd and it’s fascism now. It’s been a fascism white people were willing to ignore because it didn’t impact them directly for fucking decades, if not a hundred years or more.

    Great job joining us in reality.

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      [Fascism] has been overused to the point of meaninglessness, especially by left-leaning types who call you a fascist if you oppose abortion or affirmative action.

      Yeah, this guy can fuck right off.

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        This is infuriating.

        We’ve been calling it fascism for at least 10 years because that’s what it’s been.

        We were trying to get you fucks to wake up and stop it before it was too late, and now that you’re finally willing to acknowledge it, it’s too fucking late.

        Thanks for ignoring us and enabling it. You can fuck all the way off.

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        2 days ago

        Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

        Maybe he’s been in opposition of using the term because he’s fucking fascist-lite himself. Fascist with half the calories.

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          Calling liberals fascists is literally overusing the term to the point of meaninglessness.

          Fascists are real and they’re here, and they hate liberals and liberals hate them too. Calling liberals fascists is not going to help the situation.

          And if you’re going around making liberals bleed because you disagree with them, then you might wanna look in a mirror because you might be a fascist.

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            “Don’t overuse the term fascist you’ll make it meaningless and that makes you a fascist!”

            Like you people can’t help but be hypocritical in the same damn sentence.

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              I didn’t say “don’t use the term fascism.” If someone’s a fascist, call them a fascist. And there absolutely are fascists.

              But don’t call people who aren’t fascists, fascists, because that makes the the term meaningless. And liberals by definition are not fascists.

              Focus on the actual fascists, the far-right and everyone enabling them. Don’t call the opposition fascists just because they’re ineffective, with minorities in both chambers of congress and the supreme court.

              What makes you a fascist is advocating for making people bleed just for being liberals.

              And you had to willfully butcher everything I said in order to pull such a distorted interpretation out of it so you could make your strawman. And guess what? That’s what fascists do!

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            Do they hate fascists? They seem to be quite accommodating what with the slow rolling of justice for any infractions and the weakest of resistance to funding any ‘security’ concerns.

            But no, calling them fascist wont help.

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                  Okay dude, go out there and take some concrete actions and when I see you in the headlines I’ll know you made a difference.

                  But until then, stop blaming the people who literally voted against this to try to stop it from happening in the first place.

                  You were probably one of the idiots going around telling people not to vote, and if so you’re as much to blame for this as anyone who voted for trump.

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      I would say certain white people but they don’t consider me white so maybe that’s why I’ve been freaking out too.

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        Serious answer:

        From wiki: “Fascism is characterized by support for a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.”

        I’m not a historian or anything, but I would say that until trump we haven’t really had anyone you could call a dictator. And saying we had a strong regimentation of society and the economy seems like a stretch with the exception of wartime. You could make a good argument for ww2 era USA under FDR though that also came on the back of the new deal and a relatively progressive thrust in US politics (of course many groups of people were still oppressed and marginalized though), and possibly some parts of US involvement in Vietnam. But I think realistically there are better descriptions of the US government during those times.

        This comment is intended not to discount the historic atrocities and abject failings of the US government, but rather to maintain the power of the word fascism and to assert that things are in fact different at this moment, even if they’ve been bad for a lot if people for a long time.