“most”?
Try “all”. Everything always eventually comes down to someone, somewhere, trying to make more profit for themselves.
That’s why “Follow the money” is the surest way to solve any crime.
More precisely “follow the money” is the surest way to understand why a crime is not being prosecuted
Class conflict is a problem for much of human existence.
“The Earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses.”
Utah Phillips
The deaths from climate change related Ice storms, floods, fires, heat waves and droughts are not due to “catastrophes”, or “disasters” they are calculated, premeditated murders for profit.
“These people have physical bodies” - Jreg
“the only minority group destroying our country are billionaires” as the bumper sticker on my therapists’s car says… love her
Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.
Exactly. These creatures ARE our only real problem. More-less everything else, we could solve if they just…
…stopped being alive.
We must take matters into our own hands.
Hunting billionaires for sport would make the world immeasurably better in every way
I would never actually think of that & what about to say should be done… Remembering ‘The Aerosmith’s song ‘Eat The Rich’ every time this pops up. I once was so mad (not as mad as today, so progress in my peaceful mind-peaceful practice) told a cousin that The Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes/Owners should be made in editable food for people starving around the world.
There are a tiny proportion of relatively decent ones, such as Mackenzie Scott (Bezos’ ex-wife), so I would only ask that such a hunt not be completely indiscriminate.
Get Woked more, there are none. They have all these resources that poor-extremely (disgustingly, no one ever wants to live like, but when forced to will) poor people will never have, not just in poor countries, but in The 1st World’s wealthiest countries. And those people do not care enough to reduce their wealths/resources, hidden from taxes in USA & Etc. banking, to devote to truly making a difference in those poor-extremely (disgustingly, no one ever wants to live like, but when forced to will) poor people‘s lives & generations after them.
They can give their money away if they really are decent. Like she is doing. A notice of the start of hunting season should be all they would need to move themselves out of that class.
Make it a Top Ten Hunt. The list would be fluid as they either dispose of assets or get eliminated. Spoils go to the charity of those most in need.
The list would be fluid
If the killer keeps the money they take the ‘vacant’ place in the list, in the end the person most willing to use violence and most capable to buy protection end up with most money. Might not really be a meaningful difference to what we have now lol
They can’t keep but, they can choose what charity it goes to.
“This is Samantha, and she’s hunting for Toys For Tots. Good luck Samantha!”
I like that rule
All billionaires are bastards. Full stop. It doesn’t fucking matter if they got there through marriage. It doesn’t fucking matter if they donate to charity and seem like nice people. Nothing they can do can excuse the evil done by them or on their behalf to become that wealthy in the first place. You can tell they’re cool with it because they never seem to stop being billionaires of their own free will.
Keeping such a black & white view of things makes you no better than MAGAts, IMHO. There’s nuance to everything, and if you can’t be bothered to consider it then YOU are making yourself part of the problem.
If you bothered to look into things & think them through, you’d see she’s using her wealth to generate even more money she can donate to good causes. If she just gave away everything she got out of the marriage right away, she’d be approaching the bottom of her barrel right about now instead of having much more to contribute to good causes as she now does.
Step back from the anger, and get a bigger view of things, eh?
Sell that BS to more ignorant people!!!
She’s unelected, and dictates the disbursement of a great deal of unearned funds.
Big picture, no nuance needed: it’s feudalist to let her make these decisions.
Grow TF up & get with reality, dude. She’s working within a system she didn’t create. When you effect a complete overhaul of how the country works, we’ll talk. Until then, she’s doing much more good than most - certainly more than the bullshit your unrealistic excuses to be judgemental are.
She is not creating the system, but is in fact reinforcing it. It is by definition undemocratic.
I am glad she’s shedding the capital, but be real, she’s never going to shed enough to come back to the realm of ordinary humans. She married an oligarch, and by being an oligarch that temporarily embarrassed billionaires such as yourself stan for, she is a shining beacon of justification for the system as it is.
I hope that once I achieve oligarch status myself, that you and I can carry on this deep conversation!
Again with the uninformed judgemental bullshit. They married before Bezos even founded Amazon. I’d suggest informing yourself before making an ass of yourself yet again, but I know I’d be wasting my time. I’ve got better things to do, so consider yourself blocked.
Ah I see so she not only gets to continue to benefit personally from the unearned wealth she’s hoarding, but also gets to commit further exploitation to steal yet more wealth from the working class and redistribute it unilaterally however she sees fit, just because she gives some of it to charity. Are you not aware that most if not all of the charities rich people donate to are really just a tax dodge, and the charity itself only serves to promote the political interests of the billionaires that fund them? I guess not because you can see the nuance in being an evil wealth hoarding dragon but not in “donating” to “charity”. Educate yourself first before you try to educate others chucklefuck. You’ll look like less of a naive dipshit.
Whatever you say. I’m not the one blindly hating an entire class of people without treating each one as an individual, much like a bigot. Your blind hatred is demonstrated by the fact you act like giving away a third of her net worth - even after accounting for her gains - is just a “tax dodge.”
I get the anger and share it to an extent, but not to the point of blind rage that makes one no better than any other bigot.
Hate to break this to you, but billionaires are not a “class” in the same way merchants or workers are. The problem with being a billionaire is that by the mere fact of being one, you are already on the wrong side of history and morality. If any of them had morals, they would immediately divest enough wealth to others to become not a billionaire. But they don’t. Because they are still billionaires. Including the one in your example.
As the person above said, there are no good billionaires, full stop.
Lol assume the rage is blind. Straw man much?
Still married Bezos. Still has billions of dollars to her name. Still owns part of Amazon. There is no such thing as a decent billionaire.
Keeping such a black & white view of things makes you no better than MAGAts, IMHO. There’s nuance to everything, and if you can’t be bothered to consider it then YOU are making yourself part of the problem.
If you bothered to look into things & think them through, you’d see she’s using her wealth to generate even more money she can donate to good causes. If she just gave away everything she got out of the marriage right away, she’d be approaching the bottom of her barrel right about now instead of having much more to contribute to good causes as she now does.
Step back from the anger, and get a bigger view of things, eh?
Uh, copypasta? Trolling?
You’d know trolling. I was in a rush & couldn’t remember how to refer to a second person in a response at that moment. Deal with it. Or don’t, I don’t GAF.
Oh dont worry, the earth will still spin. Life will go on.
Humans are fucking this up for themselves and wont be missed. [Beep boop, im not a robot]
It is a little weird that this had never occurred to you until it popped into your head during a shower, but better late than never!
I think of giant monsters. Kaiju.
A normal ant is no problem. An ant the size of a skyscraper is a problem.
Money is the size here. A human with a billion dollars is a giant monster kaiju.
It ain’t the species it’s the size.
That’s a really good analogy. Thank you very much for that.
And even more importantly, you have to figure out what is causing the ants to grow that big in the first place. There are billions of ants on the planet. Killing the couple giant ones does nothing if other ants can just grow to the same size.
Money. We need a new system of commerce. The quest for even more money is the longest problem we refuse to look at in human history. Excessive greed should be punished not aspired to. All we seem to do is turn to rich people for answers like they’ve figured out the world, when in fact they ignore the world and supplant a system called “the economy” over actual reality. We make goods and send them there to buy back their goods from over there to make people in the middle rich for doing nothing. Completely ignoring health, safety, the environment in the process, things that are real in the real world that we all experience and affect us. Make it make sense to me.
They are the symptoms, not the disease. Capitalism will always create them on a long enough timeline. It is streamlined feudalism.
If you have any type of head start under capitalism, for any reason, regardless if everyone profits, those who initially profited a little more will profit exponentially more at an exponential rate as time goes by.
The claim is that under capitalism, everybody is better off. But if they earn 1.1 times as much as you do, as the years turn into decades into centuries, you will have earned a fraction of what they did. That difference matters a lot, especially at scale.
If I get $1 and you get $100, that’s a big difference between us, but not life changing for either.
If I get $1000 and you get $100000, that is a massive difference between us, trivial for me, definitely significant for you.
If I have $100000 and you have $10000000, we might as well live on different planets.
Capitalism doesn’t take this into consideration. Sorry for the somewhat juvenile example, I’m very tired, and am going to have another drink now.
Your example isn’t bad. You could go further. 1,000,000 vs 1,000,000,000. Massive difference.
The problem is when we live in a world when we have millions of people with less than $1,000, and others have more than $300,000,000,000.
Here’s another problematic aspect of the same-
In 1913 there were 435 representatives in Congress. The population of the United States was ~97 million.
In 2026 there are still 435 representatives. The population is about ~335 million.
In 1913 each representative spoke for roughly 223,000 people.
In 2026 each representative speaks for roughly 770,000 people.
In 1789 there were 65 representatives, and about 4 million people, speaking for ~60,500 people each.
Scale matters, a lot.
Why would a wealth tax not fix this?
Because if wealth is power, then wealth will not want to pay taxes, so it would wield its wealth as a weapon so as to assure that it wouldn’t. See? Taxes are laws. Capital is above the law. Can the law be enforced? If so, then yes, it would fix this. Unfortunately, a legal and democratic system cannot withstand the force of capital- which, incidentally, is also an agreement. It’s only as long as we play the game and let us be duped by it that this goes on, that’s why the power remains with the people. If we withdraw, it all collapses.
True human unity and cooperation transcends all arbitrary systems of government, democratic or other.
I think we are on the same page, to be honest.
My point is: the power should be with the people, as you said. Capital creates power. So let’s use a wealth tax to distribute it back to the people (and improve their living standards, drastically, while we are at it).
This planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movement of small green pieces of paper, which was odd because on the whole it wasn’t the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy.
One could argue that the currency system itself legitimizes the amassing of enormous wealth into the hands of a tiny minority.
We need a maximum wage
The bourgeoisie do not receive a wage. They receive our wages in the form of profit. If a maximum wage was introduced in the current system it would be made to benefit the bourgeois as they are the ones writing our laws.
We need a wealth tax, is what you want to say. Tax wealth not work.
They don’t get wealth from labor, it’s all about owning the shit that gets them wealth.
And even then, they don’t sell it to buy things, they use it as leverage to spend the banks’ money.
So it’s really about taxing more dividends, and any loans gained from leveraging assets.
