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Judging from all the sociopathic shit I’ve seen from New Labour both when I lived in Britain and when I didn’t, I fully expect that Mandelson is but the tip of the iceberg.
And this is without even going into the Tories, who are at least as devoid of empathy as New Labour types, though possibly more open about how they’re superior people for whom there is no need to verify that they obbey the ethical and moral boundaries that are supposed to moderate people’s social behaviors. (IMHO they mainly differ from New Labour types in their level of hypocrisy rather than in personal character).
Consider the possibility that a nation’s “support for Israel” is highly correlated to how many of the elites there were involved in the pedophilic honeypot that Epstein ran together with Mossad.
Now lock him up.
So they’re investigating him and expect to bring up charges, right? Right?
That will be right after they do it to Tony Blair for the war crime of Pillage in Iraq as detailed in the Iraq War Report …
It’s nice to see there’s still social pressure in some parts.
Would be nice to see this from Andrew, but he’s irredeemable and his brother is protecting him.
Andrew could be the anti-hero we need and implicate Trump, under oath. He has nothing to lose.
Lots of these creeps could do that. The thing is they won’t to “protect their legacy” when, ironically, speaking out, admitting their own crimes, apologizing to their victims & taking full legal and personal accountability, and taking the other bastards down would be the best thing they could do to leave something of a positive legacy and begin to atone.
While, yes, correct. It would also mean they would have to admit to making a mistake.
As I understand it, that would be impossible with their personality disorders.
Counterpoint to that: assume I’m Andrew and only care about my legacy. I don’t think that applies to Andrew; I think that, while he’s alive, he wants to be out of the spotlight, as unaffiliated with this as possible, not to be prosecuted, and not to potentially piss off old Epstein buddies who might have deeper dirt on him. But assume.
If I do nothing, I’ll be a footnote in the history books. People will most often see me on some list devoid of context as part of the royal family. My crimes will be explored in as much depth as possible in any extensive biography, but who’s really going to be reading one of those? And to the extent they do, surely there’s some room for an overly skeptical person to doubt it. Meanwhile, my name is going to be overshadowed by other figures like Trump for anyone reading history about the Epstein case.
If I confess, then Epstein is not only the absolute foremost thing I’ll be remembered for, but my name is going to come up at the top of and all over any account of what’s easily going to be one of the most scandalous criminal conspiracies of the 21st century. Even the dumbest, most overly skeptical idiot won’t be able to deny my involvement – of which I’m sure I’m going to have to go into gruesome specifics under oath to be permanently documented. Sure, maybe the five people who read a biography about me might see how I stood up and brought down the conspiracy and think, “Wow, he sure was slightly less of a monster for doing that!”, but the reality is that I’m probably making it much worse for the incurious general public who would otherwise, at best, see and forget me.
He’s also got a wife and kids who are high profile, his selfishness will extend to them, he wants them to be able to have legacies too or else he’s going to die hated by the few people who still love him. Sarah is absolutely telling him not to go even near an open window right now, stay in the dark for the rest of time. He seems to actually listen to her a bit, too.
It’s kind of the only good thing he has available for him to do for the rest of his life.
the second Charles tries to make him testify, he’ll flee.
No matter how despicable each person turns out to be, remember that all of them are less weird than Elon Musk in the eyes of other pedos.
Even if I was stuck in a damp dark cave obsessing over naught but a magic ring, that truth would still be sufficiently warm and anodyne enough to comfort myself to sleep with at night.
Maybe his lordship should no longer be a lord.
I lived in Britain for a decade and the impression I got was that, outside people with genuine proven merit like artists and scientists, having a titles of nobility there was a pretty good indicator of the holder of the title being a complete total sociopath, the higher the title the worse the character of the holder.
They do quite a lot of whitewashing of the system by giving things like knighhoods and damehoods to well known and loved actors and actresses, plus a renowned scientist here and there, plus some lesser honors (NEVER a knighthood or damehood) to people like firemen or nurses who went above and beyond their duty in helping others, but the vast majoriyty of types with Peerages and above are either well connected career politicians who made sure the “right” people gained from the system, very wealthy nouveau riche or those from old wealth.
Good call. They unprinced Andrew, they can unlord Mandy.
Maybe a new title is needed and can be given to him; the Unlord?
How about Lord of the Nonces, a faithul servent of the Prince of the Nonces Andrew.
Throw him in the tower
In/from
Now investigate him
Huh. Well. Congratulations to our Englishmen across the pond on having a official with the balls to resign.
They are not resigning because they are ashamed of being pedophiles. They are resigning because they were caught being pedophiles.
If they were ashamed they would’ve resigned before the Epstein files were released.
Balls is not the correct description for resigning in shame after being publicly outed as a paedophile…
It is however refreshing to see any politician anywhere resign for gross misbehavior. Shame is all to much a thing of the past for these bastards.
Could we get some of that across the pond?
Cool! Now do Trump!
