• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Funny there is no mention of primarying corporate Democrats with progressives while they’re at it. “Vote blue, no matter who” won’t cut it if corporate Democrats will remain and keep enabling fascists. It’s time for a full progressive takeover.

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      It’s always both. Obviously try and get the most progressive blue candidate you can every time, but corporate Democrats are still at least marginally better than full-throated fascists.

      It being “time” for a progressive takeover doesn’t really mean much if progressives aren’t running, or primary voters aren’t supporting them. Do you have a plan to make either of those things happen?

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        Organising grassroots and educating people on having a better leftist alternative. This always starts at the community level. The American ancestors who ended the Gilded Age and elected the Roosevelts would be rolling in their graves at how their descendants became so spineless and forget to mobilise!

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      19 hours ago

      7 Republicans voted against funding ICE this go around … but then 7 Democrats voted to fund them and/or avert a shutdown. Odd coincidence.

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        This is what I’ve said before and will say it again, both the Democratic and Republican parties are playing good cop/bad cop, respectively. They both take marching orders from their corporate donors to do a hot and cold game; to make people intimidated with the cold attitude, while the hot attitude makes the voters think “well, they’re not so bad after all.” It’s like a domestic abuse victim being psychologically manipulated by narcissistic, Machiavellian psychopathic partner by making us think “my partner hurts me sometimes, but at time he loves me. He’s not so bad.”

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    Dems need new leadership if they are to make effective use of any majority. The current leadership has no discipline and allows for its members to vote with the GOP to fund the goon squad or to end the shutdown in return for a promise that never materializes. Bad leadership is why people have trouble telling the two parties apart when it should be as plain as day.

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        Educating yourself on the atrocities commited by both the Democrats and Republicans would have you not so excited about a “blue wave.” They’re just the other right wingers.

        You will not be saved by a ruling class bootlicker.

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          Your ignorance is only surpassed by your indifference to human suffering. Your opinion means nothing to me.

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            The status quo will get the job done. Do the same and hope for a different result. Best of luck.

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              The status quo in america is white supremecy. Pick any direction that leads away from that and you can say you have a conscious.

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                No, the status quo in America is imperialism, which the Democrats fully support. You can stop the bleeding heart liberal bullshit. As long as you’re supporting capitalists, you’re part of the problem. There is no peace in the future without dismantling the ruling class.

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          You’re completely right, but it is still better than the current option by most measures for sane people.

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            It’s better for the locals, I suppose. Back to slowly boiling the working class, but equally terrible for the rest of the world. Especially the global south.

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          There is a left wing in the democratic party - it is possible to get organized and help it win over the conservative wing.

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            Which Democrats do not support capitalism? There’s no such thing as a capitalism supporting left wing. Bernie is probably the closest thing, though not a Democrat, and even he is pro-capitalism.

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                When has the US been post war? Edit: I understand what you’re sayimg now. And you’re looking for ethical capitalism, which is a weird thing to say. In other words, ethical-exploitation. Doesn’t seem like a real thing, yeah?

                The only reason FDR caved as much as he did is because the US had a strong communist presence. They’ve fixed that. Your longing for the past is akin to conservatism, no?