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    But no, this pedophile president said otherwise and that USA will make money! come one don’t be antimaga! Now that USA is normalizing pedophilia, USA will make more money with its pedophile billionaires. /S

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    7%. Pathetic. I honestly can’t believe things have turned out this way. We were pioneers in this market and now the same person who created it has actively contributed to its’ destruction.

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      He didn’t create jack shit. He bought into a wave that had already been rising and took all the credit because it was his money funding the ads. But he got involved late and had little to no involvement in design. He was happy to destroy it because he sees more money in cozying up to this administration, getting regulations relaxed, and getting government subsides for his other investments.

      Just don’t ever give him credit as a creator of any kind. He wrote some shitty early code for PayPal in the 90s or something. That’s the most he’s ever “created.”

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        He did help push it forward in a couple ways that I don’t think others would have.

        One is that he just didn’t give a fuck about regulation or established procedures. Two is that he did have a focus on affordability. Three is that he demanded a lot out of his employees largely driven (for them) by being for the greater good.

        A lot of his success has come from employees who were dedicated to the cause. It’s why both Tesla and SpaceX had done so well, while Twitter and Tesla robots will flounder

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          Some of that likely came out of him being a shitbag in various ways where he lucked into the right circumstances for that attitude.

          The world isn’t black and white. He should get some credit for Tesla. And he should get credit for the current ways he’s dismantling Tesla and the US.

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        24 hours ago

        I mean I’m pretty sure the tens of millions of dollars he invested helped a little bit.

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      In 1900 there were more electric vehicles in the US than gas vehicles.

      Big oil won out back then, and again when it eliminated trolleys around the 1930’s, and it’s keeping its grip even now.

      US options under $35,000 pretty much suck in the US for EVs. They aren’t all that great under $50k.

      I wouldn’t have bought one yet regardless. They’re only just now putting batteries into production that I believe will last 20 years without needing replaced. I’m keeping my old hybrid until those batteries ramp up in production and make it to the US if they ever become affordable here.

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      Blame the manufacturers for making disposable, non-repairable crap EVs.

      Look at the resale market for 5+ year old EVs. They’re practically worthless. Turns out they’re full of proprietary parts that can’t be replaced with after market alternatives, so people are forced to buy from the manufacturer who charges more than the car is worth.

      For some reason, the car companies thought they could get away with forcing people into the buy-discard-rebuy cycles that we have for smartphones. That hasn’t worked so far. Americans believe that cars should be a long term investment, not a disposable commodity.

      Last bit of evidence is look at the fleet vehicle market. Rental car companies have dumped their EV fleets due to the cost of repairs and replacements.

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        What kind of “repairable, non-disposable crap” do you think EVs have that gas cars don’t?

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          It’s the parts, stupid! EVs use proprietary parts that cost a fortune to replace. We’re talking thousands of dollars for proprietary headlights, whereas an old gas car you can buy new headlights for $30 at an auto parts store.

          It didn’t have to be this way. But manufacturers saw an opportunity for maximum greed and they took it!

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                  Yet nobody is buying used electric cars. The resale price is abysmal. US adoption of electric cars has stalled as a result.

                  You wanted an explanation of what’s going on and then when you don’t like the answer you react negatively.

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    While china has a lot of issues, I’ve been impressed by their efforts on electric cars and renewables.

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    It’s about to fall even further behind now that Trump just gutted EPA regulations on car emissions.

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    when you invade other countries for oil there isn’t much pressure to innovate here

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    I just can’t comprehend why you would want an ice vehicle if electric is even available.

    EV’s are superior tools in almost every conceivable metric. There are some edge cases where this isn’t true, and there are issues around price and how heavily we subsidize ice vehicles, but even then, EV’s are objectively better.

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    OK so maybe USA isn’t so great at electric vehicle adoption, but where else can you get a 64oz soda with unlimited free refills?