A war is between two armed forces. Gaza is a genocide - a war crime.
There is also a peace treaty which Israel simply ignores
At the risk of being downvoted to hell, none of what you said is necessarily exlusive towards the other. You can have a war between two countries with armed forces that could both be commiting genocide upon eachother or another people and commit even another entirely different war crime.
Hell war crimes are very diverse in intensity from each other. And I could be wrong here, I think genocide is technically not a war crime, but a crime against humanity.
Reigniting? It hasn’t stopped even a little.
Democrats threw an election in their effort to prevent Israel from being accountable for their actions. And everything about our current experience is defined by that decision. Global fascism was allowed to persist so that Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden primary donors could continue the extermination of the native populations of the holy land. We’ll live in the shadow of those decisions for decades, if not centur, just like the period preceding it was defined largely by the defeat of Nazi Germany in WWII.
Don’t do the zionist work for them by limiting your criticism to just the rational people who should have stopped this.
WW2 was started by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis, not Neville Chamberlain.
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That’s all fine and good, but singling out liberals this way rhetorically absolves the actual fascists
Chamberlain was absolutely to blame for his weak actions , and the German libs were accountable for theirs, but so were the Nazis.
Purity testing and leftist infighting is the geo-political equivalent of blaming a girl’s outfit for her rape, instead of the rapists. It’s like going to a man who was stabbed and mocking his cowardly friend instead of providing first aid or chasing off his attacker.
Criticism of the US Democratic party has absolutely nothing to do with leftist infighting. The mere implication is a favor to those looking to move the overton window as far to the right as possible.
We donʻt end up in a position where fascists are able to come to power without liberals paving the runway. And its what’s happening. Trump doesnʻt come to power if not for the liberal tendencies of Obama. Their failure to hold the banks accountable. Their refusal to bailout homeowners instead. Trump doesnʻt come to power when the preferred candidate of the people isnʻt being sabotaged by the anti-democratic tendencies of the Democratic party. Trump gets a mulligan in 2024 because the Democrats held yet another coronation and yet again ran to the right of their voters when their voters had made it clear as day that they wouldnʻt be voting for a pro-genocide candidate.
You are doing the thing liberals do to absolve themselves of accountability. And its a precise component of the song and dance that liberals use to simultaneously empower fascists but also absolve themselves of sin. Trump doesnʻt come to power at all in a context where Democrats take the task of delivering for their constituents seriously. Trump doesnʻt exist if not for the perpetual failure and the permanently apologetic state of the American Liberal.
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You think the Democratic establishment are rational? They’re less likely to foam at the mouth, but they’re about as amoral and sociopathic in pursuit of their goals as their opponents.
My preference is to treat everyone as people, and hold them responsible for their own actions or inactions instead of shifting the blame to somebody else.
So like an opposition party that refuses to oppose and when given the chance to meaningfully change course largely just… doesn’t? That sort of accountability?
Republicans are bastards, who knew. Democrats, also largely self-serving bastards who people desperately want to be better because they know the Republicans are incapable.
WW2 was started by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis, not Neville Chamberlain.
WW2 was started by Tojo and the Imperial Japanese, with the invasion of Manchuria in 1931.
Them too, but that’s really is a distinction without a difference. Thank you for pushing back on eurocentrism.
(I mean, unless you’re claiming Germany [and Italy] started the war in Europe in direct respone to their ally’s invasion?)
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That’s a mighty inconvenient thing to point out to someone who’d rather the GOP wins, bucko.
The “war” in Gaza. Everyone knows it’s not a war. We all see it. Some people use language to try to shape public perception, but there is no denying the truth of the matter.
As Norman Finkelstein said, the moment you say it’s a war Israel has won.
what’s there to debate? it’s a fucking genocide. israel is the bad guy, alongside the usa.
I assumed NAZA was a clever acronym for North American Zionist Alliance, also sounds like NASA and… That other word.
The documentary will be streaming for free on theguardian.com in November
Its not a war its a genocide.
Calling it a war is like saying the Holocaust was a war
Ah yes the extremely settled debate of Palestine
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