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    Also. This is interesting.

    My theory is that US Republicans, in aggregate, operate more on loyalty, an urge to derive norms from a “tribe,” at least more than the average Democrat. That intersects with Christians and some other demographic groups where that might already be inscribed into their upbringing. It’s reflected in the language they use “I stand with Trump. I am with him.”

    A perceived large majority rejecting their “tribe” cracks that belief.

    That would invoke a subconscious feeling they are suddenly “on the wrong side.” That insecurity is serious, as the whole premise is social acceptance from unity, whether it’s seen that way or not.

    And that’s why the Facebook post comes off as so insecure. They are feeling insecure, from peer pressure on a national scale.


    It’s just a musing, but it fits my observations so far

    And what’s ironic is that this perception is irrational, too. In absolute terms, it was still 55%-57% Democrat vs 40%-43% Republican in terms of popular vote. Only a few seats and states flipped. Thats not a huge majority, statistically.

    Yet it clearly feels like one to the coworker in the Facebook post.

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      The level of tribalism in the US is amazing.

      I’m reasonably sure that loyalty is indoctrinated very early in a child’s life to ensure that tribalism persists from generation to generation. That loyalty is absolute and it is what a person builds into their identity: “I’m American. I’m [state]. I’m Red/Blue…”

      No matter what actions the tribe takes if they offend your own morals then your morals are wrong.

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        I’m reasonably sure that loyalty is indoctrinated very early in a child’s life to ensure that tribalism persists from generation to generation. That loyalty is absolute and it is what a person builds into their identity

        We’ve had 50 years of conservative talk radio and 30 years of Fox News.

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          • most of the msms were never discussing left leaning politics, its mostly right wing and alot of copaganda based films and shows(includes similarly militaryganda, its to reinforce male hierarchy, mostly straight and christian in one form or another), or center right. they never dare say anything about “not honoring the troops”.
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          And daily pledges of allegiance at school (which is the indoctrination I was alluding to) and, frankly scary, hero worship of the military.

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        Americans are absolutely cream filled with tribalism. even when they become ‘communists’ or ‘anarchists’ it still tends to feel tribal faschy and awful. it makes organizing them high impossible to do without lying.

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      Fully respect your response. The thing with this coworker is he is 100% Trump supporter to the end. Nothing will ever shake his belief in him. I know for a fact if Trump ever made the order to kill anyone who isn’t white, he would 100% do it he is very selfish and arrogant, and only thinks of himself. I truly do hate this person and pray for his eventual downfall. He does have a lot of personal issues going on that. I am always happy to hear about. I don’t know if that makes me a bad person or not, but he is a genuinely terrible person as a quick sidenote he has a son in elementary school who is deaf and he absolutely refuses to do anything with him saying that there is no point because of his disability he is just going to grow up to be gay and woke and he fully is on board with cutting him off once he turns 18.

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      The propaganda radicalizes them by exploiting their tribal instincts.

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      Christians are raised from birth to not cultivate their critical thinking skills because critical thought leads to people leaving the church.

      The vast majority of Republicans are Christian ideologues who have no ability to think for themselves. They defer their thinking to the church and to political leaders. This leads to a population that believes determining truth is a matter of proclamation rather than observation.

      In short, conservatism is politics for stupid, gullible people.

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        some do escape thier ultra conservative bubble, its usually it becomes to hostile for the said young person to subscribe to it, or they see evidence that contradicts what Christianity provides. Some is raised religiously, but semi- seperated for it, until maga came along and they fell right back into it.