Hundreds of men led a demonstration in the Swiss capital on Saturday to denounce misogyny and a plague of violence against women, insisting men need to take a bigger and more vocal role in fighting both.
The “Men against Violence against Women” rally outside parliament follows high and persistent concerns that expressions of misogyny are too present online among teenage boys and young men — and that other men need to build a stronger counter-narrative.
It comes as some influencers on the fringe of the right-wing “manosphere” were emboldened after President Donald Trump’spresidential win in 2024 to justify and amplify misogynistic derision and threats online.
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That’s great, and don’t support rapists and the enabling parties too. Teach all to think critically, use Sagan’s baloney kit, actualize and unfold your DNA as it is. No one should abuse others or cause ACE scores. No one has a right to touch others without permission and no tolerance for hiding abuse. Transparency and the truth.
Hmm, that would require admitting the dualistic, patriarchal systems are unhealthy in many foundational ways that need to change for humanity’s progress and health. Submitting to men and to supernatural stories is full of violence against those below them in the punching order, it’s part of the hierarchy and conditional belonging. Something like 70% of usa adults have abuse and ACE scores in their past and they do the same to their children and others. It’s so common most think the dysfunctions are normal! Overall the world improves, but it’s so slow and people cause suffering when the answers are known, it’s an epic tragedy! It’s human caused, not supernatural excuses, and only solved with humane solutions, like everything we’ve solved that incantations never do. Real truth stands up to examination, not deflect them with more unfalsifiable excuses.
Fuck yeah let’s go fellow dudes! We need way more of good men pushing back hard against bad men!
is that because you believe women can’t do it on their own, or because you want to save women due to a hero complex?
edit: sorry didn’t realize it was because y’all didn’t realize that telling abusive men to stop being abusive is literally the worst thing you can do and you’re better off helping women out of abusive relationships while teaching the next generation of men that mutual respect is important.
As a woman: kindly go fuck yourself. Standing up to this shit and making it clear it isn’t acceptable is, quite honestly, the bare minimum anyone, especially men, can do.
yeah sure lady.
go tell an abusive asshole he’s an abusive asshole to his face and he’ll just go home and beat his wife so he can return to a sense of power and control.
take everything from an abusive asshole and all he can abuse is himself.
He would have done that anyways. Making it clear that sort of behavior isn’t tolerated in society is the first step to reducing the legitimacy those assholes feel.
I think it’s pretty clear that abuse of any kind is intolerable in society. if you think a bunch of men will shame other men into doing something, I’ve got bad news for you.
all you’re going to do is make them feel small, ashamed, and insignificant. And while that’s kind of the point, all it will result in is increased domestic abuse rates for that region.
you want to really help victims of domestic abuse? support more shelters, hotlines, train to become a social worker, etc.
Misogyny has never been truly intolerable in society, though. It’s always been something that’s impolite to say in public, sure, but when its just the guys hanging out they say some of the worst shit to each other and are always encouraging bad behaviors.
that telling abusive men to stop being abusive is literally the worst thing you can do
I might be old fashioned, but I think that being abusive is worse than telling abusive men to stop being abusive. What I mean is that I think you’re wrong.
go for it. while you’re at it, call an ambulance for his wife while you’re at it. she’s going to need one after he feels satisfied enough that he’s “the alpha”.
I really want to see more demonstrations like this! 🥰
Does anyone know how a guy could go about organising something like this in the UK?
I dont use any mainstream social media and doubt i have the network to set anything up but I’d love to see something in my local city. To take a stand, try to make some people feel safer, and show some misled young lads that decency and respect are real and better options.
Holy shit. That’s fucking awesome.
Would love to see this in America but there would be a follow up headline about how everyone there got fired, maybe some police shooting tear gas at peoples faces
Conservatives would show up to violently counter-protest and scream oppression.
something something toxic misandrism
blah blah soy boys with low testosterone probably trans
herpa derp gonna go vote for people who diddle kids
IDK if misogyny is worse now than before, or if I’m just aware it more. Either way, it’s a huge problem. It’s a man problem and we should take responsibility.
“I’m not that kind of guy” Isn’t good enough anymore.
Totally agree.
I would also argue that misogyny is the a big part of the reason the world is so fucked up.
But hey, maybe I’m a low T woke man.
A little bit of both. Misogyny is more visible now with the internet and it’s also been promoted more with the whole Tate brothers and their ilk and the garbage they espouse.
Those who are misogynistic are more so, but I think the net total who are is down
I would be very surprised if it was worse now, which really makes you think about how much “suffering in silence” has occured. Stuff like this is always better as information is more freely available. Education is a cornerstone of progress.
Reading about this made me (a woman) tear up… I’m so grateful for those who organized this and for everyone who participated. They’re absolutely correct that more men need to care about and help work on combatting this shit more. I’m grateful for those that care, realize the power and influence they have, and use it for good. I wish there were more like this.
Changing minds and untraining years of social conditioning about acceptable and expected behaviors and attitudes isn’t easy, especially when certain political movements start calling it woke and trying to make it toxic to even discuss, but we’re working on it, and we’ll keep working on it. Women deserve a safe and respectful world for them to live in. I will accept no substitute, not for my nieces, not for myself, not for you, not for anyone. You have allies, and we’re going to continue to fight until we win.
👑 you dropped this king
I cannot upvote this enough.
I’d upvote for you, but I already had upvoted the article for myself.
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I feel like this would hit different if you had a bunch of ripped women making that point, since that’s exactly what these alphas need to put them in their fucking place.
No, the solution is not to engage with the narrative that being stronger allows you to force people to do what you want. If we want people to behave better, we must cause them to change inside.
Normally I would agree, but we are talking about people with no intellectual honesty here. If you want to reach them, it’s going to have to be by challenging their own reasoning.
So get some muscle mommies to beat the shit out of them and prove your point.
It certainly would be cathartic, but I don’t believe it would be effective.
Administer repeat doses as needed.
You live in a dreamworld
