The last time Donald Trump was president, he travelled to Youngstown, Ohio, among the most depressed of Americaās rust belt cities, and promised voters the impossible.
The high-paying steel, railroad and car industry jobs that once made Youngstown a hard-living, hard-drinking blue-collar boom town were coming back, he said. āDonāt move. Donāt sell your house,ā he crowed to a rapturous crowd in 2017. āWeāre going to fill up those factories ā or rip āem down and build brand new onesā.
None of that happened. Indeed, within 18 months, General Motors (GM) announced that it was suspending operations at its one remaining Āmanufacturing plant outside Youngstown, throwing 5,000 jobs into jeopardy in a community with little else to cling to. Trumpās reaction was to say the closure didnāt matter, because the jobs would be replaced āin, like, two minutesā.
That, too, did not happen. People moved away, marriages broke down, depression soared and, locals say, a handful of people took their own lives.
āThe Democrats and the Republicans are all a den of crooks. Only one side lies about being crooks, and one doesnāt. If youāre going to be a crook, Iād rather know it than be lied to.ā



I donāt know. I did not vote republican lol. But I do know that a lot of folks see the economy as the number one issue, and a lot of folks are worried about immigrationā¦. Dems are better in general at having actual policy platforms than the repubs but Kamala failed on both of these issues, this is without regard to the whole genocide thing which Biden has been furtively supporting this whole time which has turned a lot of dems and young people away
Trump did a stupid speech with cans of beans in the background while Kamala was hugging CEOāsā¦. And Kamala was also celebrating that another war criminal, Dick Cheney, had endorsed her
Edit. Neither Kamala nor Biden fought back when the parliamentarian said they could not do 15 $ minimum wage in a reconciliation bill⦠do you believe Trump admin will listen to a parliamentarian when they want to jam through other crazy shit? They already got the boofing Supreme Court justice by ignoring precendent
Biden was weak af and if you think he is the best since FDR I canāt even talk to you bruh
Thatās not even an attempt to answer my question. What Iām saying is, however bad Biden and the Dems are (and they are, of course) the Republicans are much much worse. So people who vote for Trump because they donāt like the Dems are just fucking stupid.
Thing is, yeah theyāre fucking stupid but theyāre also voters who the Dems could have persuaded and hardly tried. Repeatedly spamming āvote for us or you get Trumped againā doesnāt count as persuasion.
Yea, but youāre not going to get anywhere thrashing and slamming independents who voted for Trump⦠Hillary chastising Dems and Obama chastising black men pretty much proved thatā¦
We are not going to get anywhere by blaming the voters like the establishment politicians have been doing, this is a leadership issue⦠I heard Cory bush spelling today on npr this afternoonā¦
If Dems donāt want progressive voters in their party they need to come out and say it. Say who you are.
And if you donāt want progressives itās probably why you lost the electionā¦. Because you lied about what you care aboutā¦. America is a progressive country of voters run by a citizens united corrupt Supreme Court ruling
I agree with all of that. But that still doesnāt change that fact that anybody who voted for Trump is a fucking moron who voted against their own interests.
People donāt like politics, they donāt watch the news⦠itās pretty simple really, the dems suck azz