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Selfhosting is useful when you either need a lot of storage or a lot of processing power. For example, Kiwix is useful to selfhost on a server because a lot of its content can take up terabytes of storage, which a phone may not have. LLMs are also useful to selfhost because they require a degree of processing power that, again, a phone may not have.
In both cases, there is also a need for perpetual access. If you simply hosted an LLM on your home computer, it wouldnāt be very useful to access from your phone since your computer wonāt be running all the time. So, a separate always-on server is needed.
However, there are some selfhosted software that I donāt see a use for. For example, Immich. Immich requires to be run on a server to function, but a lot of (or even all) of its functions are things that could reasonably done entirely on-device. Aves combined with some automatic backup solution such as Nextcloud gets (from what I can tell) most of the functionality Immich offers. Obviously, some features like AI image tagging are missing, but you get the point. AI image tagging is also something that could be run on-device as well, since itās mostly lightweight (iPhones are capable of it). Having a setup like that also comes with the benefit of automatic backups being completely optional, rather than required.
Thereās no reasonable need for extra storage or extra processing power needed for that use case, from what I can tell. (Disclaimer: I havenāt actually used Immich before, so this is speculation. I apologize if Iām missing something obvious) Thereās a lot of other selfhosted tools like spotDL which have a selfhosted web UI, but no GUI that can be installed outside of a web browser.
I guess my question is why there are so many selfhosted tools that unnecessarily require being run on a separate device. I do understand the legitimate use cases some of them have, but others seem better off on-device airgapped. This especially became an issue trying to find a notes app for Android that requires no account and runs fully locally, or an RSS reader that loads from the device itself. I found Joplin and Feeder or Read You as the software for each of those. I donāt like āserver-basedā selfhosting for things that could be done from the device itself.
Iām sorry if this turned into a rant. If someone could help me understand, I would appreciate that very much.
Cheers!
Edit: The comparison here isnāt between selfhosting and using a cloud provider. The comparison here is between selfhosting on a server and running explicitly on-device (besides where extra storage or processing power is required)
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So that nobody has to dig through the comments for answers, this is what Iāve learned: In the case of Immich, its purpose isnāt designed to be a photo gallery. Itās designed to be a more polished backup solution, designed explicitly for photos and not general files. While Nextcloud could be used to backup photos, itās not as focused on photos as Immich, and so it isnāt as nice to use for that purpose. Immich also allows you to share photos with a link, rather than relying on a cloud provider to do that for you. Thereās also another benefit to selfhosting that I hadnāt entirely realized, which is availability across devices. Some things like an eBook library may not take up much space, but itās convenient to not have to sync manually (or automatically) across devices, and instead access it from a central server. That same logic is true for RSS readers as well, since itās inconvenient to manually add and sync feeds across devices. Syncing across devices can be done with something like Syncthing in some cases, but not all, and so thatās where selfhosting can be useful.


Thanks reasonable! That does make me realize how different my workflow is. My philosophy is compartmentalizing everything. What I do on my phone stays on my phone. What I do on my desktop stays on my desktop. What I do on my laptop stays on my laptop. Iāve never really had the need for anything more until now. Then again, Iāve also never had the resources to selfhost until now.