As an outside observer, I think a certain Mr. Sanders could have provided a decent alternative candidate but the democrats decided against him (in a not very democratic way IIRC). Instead, they opted for the flawed political triangulation tactic and took a right politics drift, to their own peril.
Different base population, different set of candidates, different election. Apples and oranges. In comparison, French elections have a sort of “primary” (the actual election) with a follow-up between the two strongest candidates across parties about who becomes the president. The odds there sometimes look quite different from the first round. I mentioned Sanders here because I remembered something fishy was going on during the primaries in 2016 which took Sanders off the board, despite a decent support. But Wikipedia suggests that might have been a Russian spin against Clinton? Hard to tell.
Anyway, my broader point is that you can’t run triangulation politics against fascists. This doesn’t work and political scientists have been pretty clear about that for a long time. Hence both Clinton and Biden were pretty short-sighted and weak strategic choices. The democratic party didn’t stand for anything in the past decade, apart from “not the orange guy”. There needs to be a visionary, authentic alternative people can identify with. I’m not sure such a thing can meaningfully develop top-down from inside the political establishment. I have no solution.
I’m sick of people who think the solution to today’s problem is inventing a time machine and going back nine years to run a guy who couldn’t win a primary as the presidential candidate.
I’m sick of people who think the DNC primary is a fair contest despite multiple courts saying it’s a private party who can make up rules however it wants.
One might note that nobody suggested running Bernie today. If you expect people to forget that the conservative wing of the Dems is responsible for the rise of Trump in several important ways, that isn’t going to happen.
As an outside observer, I think a certain Mr. Sanders could have provided a decent alternative candidate but the democrats decided against him (in a not very democratic way IIRC). Instead, they opted for the flawed political triangulation tactic and took a right politics drift, to their own peril.
No offence but Bernie wasn’t able to win a primary so why would he have a chance in the general?
Different base population, different set of candidates, different election. Apples and oranges. In comparison, French elections have a sort of “primary” (the actual election) with a follow-up between the two strongest candidates across parties about who becomes the president. The odds there sometimes look quite different from the first round. I mentioned Sanders here because I remembered something fishy was going on during the primaries in 2016 which took Sanders off the board, despite a decent support. But Wikipedia suggests that might have been a Russian spin against Clinton? Hard to tell.
Anyway, my broader point is that you can’t run triangulation politics against fascists. This doesn’t work and political scientists have been pretty clear about that for a long time. Hence both Clinton and Biden were pretty short-sighted and weak strategic choices. The democratic party didn’t stand for anything in the past decade, apart from “not the orange guy”. There needs to be a visionary, authentic alternative people can identify with. I’m not sure such a thing can meaningfully develop top-down from inside the political establishment. I have no solution.
You should have just left it at this.
You specifically asked for followup
I better never see you critisize anthing you can’t fully fix by yourself then you misanthrope.
I’m sick of people who think the solution to today’s problem is inventing a time machine and going back nine years to run a guy who couldn’t win a primary as the presidential candidate.
I’m sick of people who think the DNC primary is a fair contest despite multiple courts saying it’s a private party who can make up rules however it wants.
One might note that nobody suggested running Bernie today. If you expect people to forget that the conservative wing of the Dems is responsible for the rise of Trump in several important ways, that isn’t going to happen.