• John Doe@lemmy.world
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    I’m in NY and I will NOT be voting for Schumer in the primaries. Hopefully, I’m not the only one with this mindset. The only Democrat that I see reflecting my outrage is Jasmine Crockett. All the established politicians, like Hakeem Jeffries, act as if they’re clenching down to hold in a barbiturate enema.

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        Well, I’m not voting RepubliKKKan but I don’t think the current crop of Democrats can beat them. We need new players.

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    Wouldn’t it be more accurate to show the democrats giving cops and border patrol boatloads of money? They were elected on a mandate of reform the police but instead they just gave them shit loads of money and built them fake towns so that the cops could get their rocks off imagining hurting citizens.

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    It’s hilarious to see people scapegoat the democrats so much.

    What have you done to prevent this?

    Progressives constantly bitch and moan but haven’t organized anything themselves so this is literally the kettle calling the pot black.

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      This guy with his history of comments on Lemmy of all people defending Democrats really tells you everything you need to know about the current batch of Democrats doesn’t it?

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      As an outside observer, I think a certain Mr. Sanders could have provided a decent alternative candidate but the democrats decided against him (in a not very democratic way IIRC). Instead, they opted for the flawed political triangulation tactic and took a right politics drift, to their own peril.

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          Different base population, different set of candidates, different election. Apples and oranges. In comparison, French elections have a sort of “primary” (the actual election) with a follow-up between the two strongest candidates across parties about who becomes the president. The odds there sometimes look quite different from the first round. I mentioned Sanders here because I remembered something fishy was going on during the primaries in 2016 which took Sanders off the board, despite a decent support. But Wikipedia suggests that might have been a Russian spin against Clinton? Hard to tell.

          Anyway, my broader point is that you can’t run triangulation politics against fascists. This doesn’t work and political scientists have been pretty clear about that for a long time. Hence both Clinton and Biden were pretty short-sighted and weak strategic choices. The democratic party didn’t stand for anything in the past decade, apart from “not the orange guy”. There needs to be a visionary, authentic alternative people can identify with. I’m not sure such a thing can meaningfully develop top-down from inside the political establishment. I have no solution.

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                I’m sick of people who think the solution to today’s problem is inventing a time machine and going back nine years to run a guy who couldn’t win a primary as the presidential candidate.

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                  I’m sick of people who think the DNC primary is a fair contest despite multiple courts saying it’s a private party who can make up rules however it wants.

                  One might note that nobody suggested running Bernie today. If you expect people to forget that the conservative wing of the Dems is responsible for the rise of Trump in several important ways, that isn’t going to happen.

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      Imagine complaining about the plumber who tried to fix your leaky pipe with a paper napkin, and have someone saying you are scapegoating them. It’s their fucking job to prevent this.

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        It’s their fucking job to prevent this.

        They were doing a good job before the voters cut off both of their arms by giving MAGA majorities in the house and senate and the presidency.

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          How is giving police departments, now working to enable the authoritarian agenda which WE ALL KNEW THEY WOULD DO, even more money “doing a good job?”

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            There was no right choice with the continue resolution. Both outcomes were shit and cause pointless death and suffering.

            So be mad at the people who wrote it.

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              Yes there was a right choice, as shown by the polling I literally just linked. You’re supporting the wrong choice.

              EDIT: Sorry I didn’t realize you weren’t SatansMaggotyCumFart, but please see the links below.

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                I would have preferred the CR got struck down, but I also realize there are more avenues of resistance with continued government, so I’m very ambivalous to both options. If the general public always decided right and wrong to minimize suffering and casualty, Donald Trump wouldn’t be president, Biden wouldn’t have won the 2020 primaries.

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                  Right but again, we don’t have to wonder what the public would think because this has happened multiple times in the last decade and they blame Republicans. This isn’t an unknown, pretending like it is doesn’t help anyone.

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              Let’s be honest, if ten years ago taught us anything it’s that the public would probably blame the Republicans for the shutdown. They keep shutting the government down, getting blamed, losing elections as a result, then forgetting and once again shutting the government down. Why the hell should the Democrats save Republicans from the consequences of their own actions?? You know Democrats aren’t going to get any credit for keeping the lights on when they swoop in and vote with the GOP on their asenine budget. Why would you rather take the high road in order to help the Republicans than take the low road for once and let the GOP’s obvious lack of ability to govern bite them in the ass? What kind of a Democrat goes out of their way to save the GOP from itself?

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                DOGE is already pretty unpopular for everyone but die hard MAGAs why would you swoop in and do that job for them and take the blame?

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                  But Democrats won’t take the blame, we’ve been through this before and that concern almost never plays out. We’re gonna pull our punches because they’re already pretty unpopular and, what, that’s good enough? Are you kidding?

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          Believe it or not, getting votes is also part of their job. It’s an integral part of the system and usually works if they actually try to represent us.

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      Progressive candidates either tote the Democratic Party line or the party drops all support for them instead pushing all that money to a centrist candidate.

      Then the democratic leaning media runs articles against those progressives saying stuff like “will progressives sink democratic electoral chances”.