Yeah look back into uk political news over the past few weeks, this is almost certainly an indirect follow up to comments made about rejoining.

Yeahhh but anybody who is harshly in any direction hasn’t thought about it enough.

Some exceptions but fewer than you’d think.

At the same time, people staunchly resistant to technological advances without a hint of nuance, not historically the sharpest tools.

There’s a middle road where the technology can be useful but the economic system pushing it is cancerous.

Legislating capitalism is like cupping your hands under a tap and hoping the sink below never gets wet.

Prediction:

Plaintiff - Submits AI fueled claim.
Judiciary - Uses AI to parse claim.

Outcome: more people attempt claims because previously they were incapable of a cohesive claim, but overall time dealing with individual claims goes down. Probably not in the short term though.

I want to stay in bed, eating black licorice.

For me I think the symptoms caused the anxiety, I knew I was going to fuck up, forget or otherwise under perform, so I was anxious about the semi-inevitable outcome.

Hardly likely to be the default

Everyone picks their own hill.

Anyway. If that still isnt clicking then I leave you with this only, your trauma is your own and cant be redefined by outside sources.

But none of that means we cant try to help, support and prepare people before they (potentially) experience it.

The goal is always to make the world a little bit nicer for those who follow us.

So you do not see the distinction. You’re repeatedly arguing past the point.

Nobody is saying trauma is something you can simply reason yourself out of after the event. Ive repeatedly pointed that out even. I’m saying the meaning we attach to an event beforehand affects how we interpret and experience it.

Yes, first experiences can produce strong associations. That doesn’t establish that we should culturally frame someone’s first sexual experience as a uniquely defining threshold where something is permanently “lost”. If anything, that makes the framing more relevant, not less.

A traumatic first sexual experience may be traumatic because of what actually happened: coercion, pain, fear, humiliation, betrayal, whatever the circumstances were. But the additional belief that “this was my one special first time and now it’s been irreversibly taken from me” is a separate layer of meaning, and that layer absolutely can be socially taught.

You’re treating “trauma can form involuntarily” as though it disproves “cultural expectations can shape how experiences are understood” but those propositions don’t conflict at all.

Again, you’re looking it after the fact, this discussion is about prevention.

Can you not see the distinction?

That’s a pretty extraordinary reading of what I said. “A traumatic experience can be real and serious without permanently defining your identity” is almost the opposite of victim blaming.

I haven’t blamed anyone for being traumatised, or suggested they caused their own distress. I’m saying that we don’t need to reinforce the idea that a bad first sexual experience means something fundamental has been permanently lost or changed about them.

You’re determined to collapse “this experience can be traumatic” into “therefore virginity should carry this enormous cultural significance”, but the second simply doesn’t follow from the first, and there’s no good reason to force it to.

Re-read my last. You’re making a slightly different distinction to uphold this point, and it doesnt really make sense.

Consider the consequences of associating what you consider a defining moment of your sexual identity with trauma, forever.

Consider then, a mindset where that moment does not define your sexual identity.

In which scenario would you expect to feel better.

What you’re saying is how to deal with an event after it happens, the topic here is how to shape your expectations before the event, to avoid a worse fallout. Regardless of how negative the experience is.

I think thats exactly why this sentiment is being fielded.

It allows a separation from what can easily be a less than pleasant experience that society often puts a lot of pressure on.

But i think that’s exactly the point being made, there shouldn’t be that much pressure on it because it is very often disappointing. Building it up in your head as a moment that will define you often has no benefit to your life.

Bible shaggers will disagree for obvious reasons, but nobody is going to them for measured romantic and sexual advice.

Have sex when you feel ready. Make it special if you want to. No need to make it an implicit societal pressure.

Yeah man and those damn democrats supporting Israel, we were better off voting for Trump because he doesnt… wait. Oh wait no actually he also supports Israel, fuck, well that acheived less than nothing.

You fully cant exist in modern society without ethical problems. You draw your own line.

If you’re not giving money, and you’re ensuring your plex-shared friends arent giving money, thats a valid enough degree of separation for many, potentially most.

Several steps removed here.