See, shit like this just makes me side eye your motivations. The idea that liberals, let alone progressives, would have some instinct to protect Bill Clinton is something that only makes sense in conservative spaces. If he fucked children, I hope it’s uncovered and he dies in prison. Conservatives are too immersed in their nonsense to differentiate between the conservative propaganda and things liberals actually care about and it spawns these dumb gotchas that anyone who actually had liberal friends would know were dumb. Stuff like pushing a rumor to feed the Vince Foster conspiracy and calling it “progressive”.

Did Hilary Clinton fuck Bill’s friend? I dunno. Do I care? Not in the slightest. And it’s sure as hell not because I like Hilary Clinton.

Even if we try to say oppressive fascist police aren’t police, they love racist thugs even more. Nothing that’s happening is contrary to their worldview, because their worldview was never actually about being the last line of defense against an oppressive government in a general patriotic sense.

There nothing to debunk because this isn’t a news story. Epstein, who has no particular reason to have inside information about an affair, said an affair happened, something that isn’t itself illegal or particularly relevant to anyone who hasn’t been eagerly looking for rumors to stir up conservative conspiracy theorists and distract from all the other Epstein revelations.

My first post said all of this. It wasn’t questioning whether the story was true. I, an actual progressive, simply don’t care because it’s not newsworthy to progressive political discussion even if it is. Why do you think this is an important piece of news?

Here ya go clown, straight from your “progressive” site so you don’t have to read a site you conveniently refuse to visit when it will embarrass you.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250628201923/https://demstate.com/advertise

Interests

Political engagement

Traditional values

Faith & family

Second Amendment

Free enterprise

They did a sloppy find and replace when copying over their conservative template.

Got any more hot goss from the right bud? Maybe some deep pulls about Pizzagate or something about Elizabeth Warren violently domming marines.

If you’re not just in on the op yourself, you’re a clown with zero media literacy who doesn’t even want to question whether he’s being played. The whole story was sus as hell and you never even wondered who this brand new source was. Website said “progressive” so it must be progressive.

Go read the link. It’s a trash site made by Republicans and your dumb/sus ass fell for it.

MBFC is bad because it estimates establishment sites as left leaning and is unreliable on what counts as a fact, not because it accidentally calls progressives conservative or makes up evidence whole cloth about poorly disguised conservative ops.

Lol. Ok. Whether Hillary had an affair in the 90s (that Epstein would know about) is definitely a top news story for progressive political discussion in all of this. We’ve all been eagerly waiting for any new rumors about a 30 year old conservative conspiracy.

Yup. Progressive.

Edit: Some bonus background about this site. Definitely by progressives for progressives.

That title was really confusing until I realized Trump also had an enemy with the last name James and they didn’t mess up saying James Comey.

AOC will never be Senate Leader. That’s not on offer whatever path she takes.

I don’t think calling for resignation or not has anything to do with the Epstein files, but the same collective action problem that made few people publicly call for Biden to resign even though most Democratic voters wanted change. The people who decide these things aren’t the voters and if you call for an establishment leadership figure to be purged and they aren’t, you’re in for a load of shit from them.

Like with Biden, Bernie and AOC also probably expect any replacement to be the same type of person playing the same sort of games. Schumer is particularly bad at politics, but his replacement won’t be someone who might displease donors.

Using “undercover” as if he’s concealing his employer in order to take on the mob rather than attendants at a carwash.

Another recent change was Trump pushing for the filibuster to be removed. The establishment could just claim it was because they need it to stop him so they should never stop him enough that he would make Republicans do it, but it could also be seen as a freedom they don’t want to have should we get a Democratic trifecta in the future. Being able to say “I want to do good things, but shucks the system stopped me” is a valuable tool for elected officials.

Immigration enforcement comes AFTER someone has been convicted of a crime. ICE cannot investigate whether a crime has occurred.

Threatening to call the gestapo on anyone is a shit stain act, regardless of whether you’re legitimately angry at their actions. Don’t be a shit stain.

They really aren’t. That’s just something that racist shit stains jump to.

If someone is doing (what you think are) illegal things to you, regardless of their citizenship, you call the police, the organization that deals with enforcing the law.

“When Congress voted” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

No, it really isn’t. That’s a press release. Or the Truth post Trump made.

News filters for worthy events, explains mechanics, and adds other context to help its readers understand why this thing is worth knowing and what it might mean.

So it’s the caviest of caves, without even giving the Democrats anything. Are they worried that they were winning too much?

Addressing Zhou’s allegations that Renner threatened to call ICE on her, Singer alleges Zhou “had been relentlessly harassing and threatening my client with hundreds of unsolicited and unwanted messages.”

In response to an allegation, something that doesn’t respond to the allegation at all. At least unless “she deserved it” is supposed to be a response to threatening to call ICE on a foreign born person.

Teen Vogue. Which is being shut down, presumably because it did good work.

I’ll add that to my $5,000 DOGE dividend. Why do news outlets report what he says when he’s obviously lying?