More than a thousand protests are planned across the US this Saturday and Sunday after ICE agents shot three people, one fatally, in Minneapolis and Portland, Oregon, this week.
"This weekend, people all over are coming together not just to mourn the lives lost to ICE violence, but to confront a pattern of harm that has torn families apart and terrorized our communities,” said Leah Greenberg, co-executive director of Indivisible, an organizer of “ICE Out for Good Weekend of Action”.
For the ICE Out for Good weekend of action, events are planned in every corner of every state, from Honolulu, Hawaiʻi, to Machias in eastern Maine. Indivisible, one of the groups behind last year’s No Kings protests, is continuously updating its online tracker to note every vigil, rally and protest. Other coordinating groups include the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Day Laborer Organizing Network and the 50501 movement.
“We demand justice for Renee, ICE out of our communities and action from our elected leaders,” said Greenberg. “Enough is enough.”
Definitely protest but also consider joining or getting involved with an organization. All kinds of options depending on your beliefs and level of desired involvement. Socialist Rifle Association, the Black Panthers, the 50501 movement. Reach out to Local mutual aid, social justice, or anarchists groups; they can often point you in the right direction. Protest kitchens are always looking for donations. If you’re beliefs align with communism or socialism, they’re always recruiting.
You don’t have to but there is strength in numbers.
Protest armed
It’s well established that a line of calm protestors with rifles is the best way to keep the police from rioting
Red states are silent.
Clearly, you haven’t looked at the map. Red states are anything BUT silent. (Note: navigating the map will show numbers in areas that look blank until you move to that part of the map.)
Victim blaming redstates is over. We do solidarity now.
…I’m not sure if you know what victim blaming is.
Bloody Kansas v2: Electric Boogaloo
They are shooting and killing people. The only language they understand is violence. The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. It’s time to respond in kind.
You go ahead and do that, but make sure there are no innocent people nearby when you do. They haven’t been trained on the rules of engagement, nor do they care about them. When they’re fired upon, they won’t just fire back at the individuals who shot them. They’ll consider everyone a threat and start spraying the crowd. If you shoot one of them, you’re creating exponentially more danger for everyone around you.
Look at the videos from their attack on Roosevelt High School in Minneapolis. A kid threw snow at one of the agents - not even a snowball, just a handful of snow - and the agent turned around and bear maced everyone he could see.
I agree. But most of liberal America doesn’t, unfortunately.
“Don’t Underestimate The Power Of Just Showing Up.” Your voices and presence WILL give strength to the fight.
remember that NSA, FBI, DHS, and all the rest will have full access to every security camera covering every one of these events, and they’re using AI to match faces to driver license photos. if your face is seen at one of these things, then you’re on a list. that’s not even counting people posting the shit to facebook
mask up. leave the phone at home.
There is a lot of good advice all up and down this thread, but this year please have a plan for defending or escaping home.
Assume it will happen. Have multiple escape routes. Be real about what tools and techniques work best for your abilities, skills, and risk profile.
With enough of us on “the list” it becomes a badge of honor. Pete Seeger would have been half the legend he was if not for McCarthy’s blacklist.
I will not hide my objection.
I feel the same way. I would rather they know how many of us hate their fucking guts.
good, the more people in that database, the better
Depends on what you expect to happen. If you think you could be arrested, leave it at home. If you just don’t want to be caught in a mass surveillance event, airplane mode is fine. You might not even care if you’re identified at something large and public like No Kings type events.
People need to be aware of their threat profile, but having a mobile video recording device and using it as part of an influence campaign is a valuable tool. Going to a candle lit vigil and recording a video of a bunch of somber people to make your MAGA mom feel something is a different event and risk than going with some bloc comrades to sabotage ICE vehicles.
I figure I’m going to a nonviolent protest in a blue state, and I’m white.
They’re as likely to already have my name on a list for participating in this thread.
Don’t forget the flock cameras tracking your license plate
Flock needs to be banned but I’d have alot of respect for people if they started getting sabotaged.
Burner phone if anything, and ALWAYS take public transit to protest events.
If you bring a burner you need to dispose of it before going home, see the recent article on 404 media about Webloc use by ICE where they can track every phone at a protest and see where it goes home
… they can track every phone at a protest and see where it goes home
That’s why you only ever have the burner phone turned on with the SIM in it while you are at an event and always turn it off/remove the SIM before you leave. Wrap it in foil also makes sure a signal can’t be sent or received.
Another option is just a stand-alone video camera (I have one that’s about half the size of a phone), or using a phone with no SIM and wifi off.
We back to printing directions then. We kinda need that cleanse as a society anyway.
We’ll just have to station a GraphiteOS user at every street corner like a phone booth. Bring quarters.
What are they going to do, shoot us all in the head? If enough people get on board, it stops mattering.
Amazingly few people were shot in the head some Jan 6ths ago by all of those roof snipers in DC, while breaking into state buildings and killing a cop, hmm…
You mean to say one cannot simply throw away the SIM like in super-sleuth films?
Nah, it’s like the Wire, you just snap the phone in half and throw it away.
Definitely leave phone at home and maskup
These are nonviolent protests though…?
The police are notorious for rioting at nonviolent protests.
Do you think because they are nonviolent protests you are not going into a Palantir database that is categorizing you based on Peter Thiel wanting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment and therefore trying to tee up global collapse so he can be a technofuedalist king who will not hesitate to just blacklist someone because they showed up for an event against the fascism he wants for himself? And at that point there are no laws to what “blacklist” means, even worse than “Deny, Deport, Disappear”?
I’m just suggesting living your life in the kind of fear op suggests would lead me to not even protest. They can put me in their database because I don’t want to live in a world that is not only this bad but you can’t even peacefully protest it.
I think a comment like that encourages people to stay home and we should definitely be doing the opposite. EVERYONE should be in that fucking database. Can’t deport or kill everyone.
“Be afraid!”
ICE out of USA now!
I hope they will be effective
Protests are already effective, in multiple ways.
Mainstream media loves to “both sides the same” and minimize every new excess and unlawful act, making all of us feel very, very alone when we learn of the newest outrage in the silence of looking at our phones. Yet possibly the biggest thing attending a protest will do for anyone who goes is powerfully prove that they are NOT alone in their grief and outrage, that they are NOT crazy or misguided for thinking that which is blatantly wrong is, in fact, blatantly fucking wrong, that there really is still such a thing as community after living for so long in their own personal desert, even as the protest itself allows opportunities for making contacts with other like-minded people, offering inspiration that tomorrow need not feel as bleak as today.
It’s no accident that the biggest assault of regimes who aspire to totalitarian rule is on community itself, from every possible direction: propaganda, sowing discord, pitting in-groups against out-groups, normalizing antisocial behavior, criminalizing assembly, raising the specter of surveillance, fostering self-censoring, using public words to mindfuck and lie and call every evil The New Good, etc. They attack community in all its organic, non-supervised, non-approved forms wherever they can because to be human is to have an inbuilt desire for community: control the community and you control the human.
Yet in a single afternoon, attending even one protest can destroy all that carefully plotted work to cognitively and emotionally separate you from the rest of humanity, and worse still, pull in others to your cause that were otherwise happy sitting on the fence.
It’s not all about regime change, though it is certainly that. It is about building community that won’t stand for a shitty regime, one person at a time. And in that respect it is already overwhelmingly effective, for everyone that can attend even just one.
You’re perfectly right and this is why I hope they will be effective. They will have to be more massive than the propaganda campaigns that will follow so that, instead of being dampened and cancelled out by the media, they can create an avalanche effect that makes life difficult for colluding oligarchs and bureaucrats.
They will be, but not in an instant gratification manner.
Sociopolitical change requires the long haul.
Anyone expecting some kind of revolution needs to see about 35 million in the streets at once, plus a well developed infrastructure of philosophy, ideals, and civil organizations.
In the meantime, mass dissent is necessary and fertilizes the roots of liberty – cf. history.
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5 locally today +1 tomorrow… Going to be a good weekend!
im gonna show up to one of them in an ice cream truck but CREAM will be in big letters so people know i’m not the bad ice
Yeah and if each of these 1000 events will be a single day protest, NOTHING will change
The no kings protests so far have had zero effect, can you please just stop doing that?
Protest, strike, and keep doing it, every day after day until they have to capitulate
You’re getting downvoted but are correct. Sustained protests matter much more than one-offs.
The 3.5% bRo TrUsT. One more protest and we defeat fascism bro. Just one more bro.
You really are the debbie downer today.
Nothing will come of these protests. They’re all going to be infected with a severe case of the omnicause, and that will cause too much internal division and infighting to actually produce anything.
The one and only time in the past few years where that didn’t happen was during the hands off/no kings protests last year, which is why the turnout was so big. Unfortunately that didn’t last.
Gorrilladrums here looking for a quick fix. Tiktok politics rearing its sleepy head.
Study history. Protests necessary but not a solitary solution.
Nothing will come of negative pointless comments like this
every act of protest is a failure, until it isn’t. recall the civil rights marches and protests.
it’s true, protesting doesn’t guarantee change, but if it doesn’t, then you can say you tried, before escalating to armed fucking rebelliion
I get your point, but I don’t think it invalidates mine. The tactics and optics that protests use matter a lot, and subsequent protests should learn from previous attempts what worked and what didn’t. However, we’re not seeing that evolution. It’s the same damn issues every time that lead these protests to fizzle out rather than build to actual change. I firmly believe that this time will be no different, these protests will find ways to devolve into an omnicause protest and fizzle out. Which is unfortunate because if that time and energy was more organized and disciplined, we could have formed genuine resistance to Trump and MAGA
if that time and energy was more organized and disciplined
agreed. it’s so fucking frustrating being surrounded by people who hate everything that’s happening, but would rather carry on as if everything is ‘business as usual,’ even as the world burns beneath us.
yes-- “peaceful protesting” is not going to fix this
Right now, we have nothing. There’s literally zero resistance. Trump is doing whatever he wants with zero obstacles and zero consequences. We have neither peaceful or violent protests in the works. The “peaceful protests” are nothing more a gathering party for people who like to virtue signal, and all the “armed resistance” is too chronically online. I just wish there was at least a sense of urgency among people, but there isn’t. Without a feeling urgency, nobody is willing to go out, connect, organize, and carry out meaningful protests and resistance. It’s baffling to me how after a year of the orange dipshit setting the country and world on fire, people still don’t care.
For protesting to work, it has to be disruptive. Read: not violent, but disruptive.
If you only protest when and where it’s allowed, then you’re not really bothering people (because if it were bothering the right people, it wouldn’t be allowed). Block streets, block businesses, block and bother people who want to go shopping, so they stay or go home and businesses lose money. AND KEEP IT UP. Don’t go home after one afternoon and give yourself a pat on the back. Stay there day in, day out, and don’t let up.
More importantly: STRIKE. Stop making money for the owner class. Strike and make sure other people can’t keep making money for the owner class. Let garbage pile up in the street, let packages go undelivered, let the bit of public transport you have stand still, stop cleaning those toilets, stop building those shiny new office buildings. STRIKE until they listen to you, hurt them until they listen to you.
Basically you need to grind society to a halt and force them to listen to you. Don’t be a tiny nuisance they can ignore for a day or two until things go back to normal. Why would they respond to that?
And for the love of everything that’s good, don’t give me the bullshit excuse of not having enough money, of not being able to lose your job, not having a social safety net. Throughout all of history, all over the world, there have been protests, riots, rebellions, revolutions – do you think all those people had job security and social safety nets?
This is anecdotal. Your viewpoint illustrates that you are not on the frontlines building civil organizations or participating in direct action (which does not necessarily involve sabotage, folks).
Unified monoperspectives are dangerous anyway. Build coalitions and hegemony among various segments of local regions. Read/discuss Gramsci’s prison writings.
It’s because people are too scared to do anything rn. They have kids and don’t want to become homeless, or lose their jobs. They aren’t mad enough yet. That comes with time and events out of their control, when they realize that life under dictatorial rule is worse than death.
That’s when you’ll see people start paying the cost to fight for their lives.
