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    Oh, hey, look. It’s the men in women’s bathrooms they feared for so long.

    It finally happened!

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    It’s insane that these anonymous fascist enforcers can run around the country causing chaos and ignoring laws. They’re harassing men, women, and children, people protected by court orders, and even citizens, and using an obscure centuries-old law to deny people their due process, then send them to a unknown country not related to their ancestry for them to be imprisoned and tortured. And the masked cowards don’t even have to show a badge number so they can be held accountable.

    Let’s protest, and strike, and vote, and see if we can achieve some semblance of legal justice after the midterms, but ultimately: We are a failed, authoritarian nation if we accept this. And we will deserve everything that goes with it…

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      EU should sell all it’s 10 year treasury bonds since Heritage Foundation thinks the EU should be dissolved.

      They wont because they’re afraid of losing money. You know, the same reason US Citizens are afraid of striking. But yeah, it’s up to the middle/lower classes to front this burden too… it’s always the little guy’s burden. Always.

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      i CAN’T go outside without permission. is there any way i can help make a difference from home? can i study socialist/communist theory?

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    Every single fucking day there are headlines about ICE committing all kinds of atrocities, so there are probably 10x more atrocities commited that are not being reported in the news.

    And I never see any headlines of any ICE agents being prosecuted.

    WTF is happening in the USA. Are there no laws? No one to enforce them?

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      I’m honestly surprised that ICE isn’t getting shot more, with all of the shady and illegal shit they are doing. They really should.

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        They target the most vulnerable and non threatening people. Moms and children. Guna are expensive, if they surprised you in the. Bathroom they wouldn’t have time to react

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          People are also going to have to weigh living, and getting deported and hopefully a short terrible period to possibly be happy again versus shooting at ice, possibly killing someone (which most people have a moral aversion to) and almost certainly being killed in return.

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            Hold up. You think the people being deported are going to have a rough time for a bit and then be happy again?

            They are being sent to labor and death camps in countries that they aren’t from. That terrible period you’re talking about is going to be for the rest of their lives.

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            Exactly. That’s why the smart strategy would be doing the same, not reacting to their insane armed assaults. Not that I would condone such actions, just pointing out a random thought I had once.

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        i know of atleast 1 case where they did, i assume there’s more they’re just not getting reported on (the revolution will not be televised)

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      Are there no laws?

      Not for the Epstein class and their lackeys (e.g. ICE, cops, politicians)

      No one to enforce them?

      Nope. Most of the people with the guns in this country like the violence.

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        While a ton of people have guns, I’m thinking most of the people online who talked so big about using them were bots or astroturfing.

        No individual is going to hold them accountable. We need organization for that.

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          If unidentified, masked agents show up on my property in an aggressive manner, I am absolutely opening fire and burying their bodies in the acreage of forests out back.

          It won’t end well for me, but we outnumber them. If even every 100th person took out at least one of them, they’d cease to exist pretty quickly.

          There would be other ramifications, but we’re getting there no matter what anyway.

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          While a ton of people have guns, I’m thinking most of the people online who talked so big about using them were bots or astroturfing.

          The ammosexuals are loving the fact that ICE is treading all over people. It’s their team doing the violating of rights.

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          It’s a bit sad seeing Americans completely unable to act without someone telling them what to do honestly.

          Individuals absolutely held powerful figures accountable throughout history, but I agree that won’t happen in the US

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            EU can sell it’s 10 year bonds to cripple this administration. It’ll cripple the EU economy too, so it won’t happen and you don’t support that. It’s totally going to be a few murican citizens that bring this admin to it’s knees. So sick of this narrative when EU acts like the democratic party in the US… all talk while making money hand-over-fist

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      The people are too pacified to defend their democracy. They think it’s a spectator sport where showing up once every 4 years to check a box is all that’s required of them. A lot of them don’t even bother to do that. So instead they complain online and stand around with a sign at a No Kings rally two times in 11 months.

      Americans, this is your democracy. It’s your country and your future. Demand better.

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      And I never see any headlines of any ICE agents being prosecuted.

      There’s been at least five this year.

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    We need a list of every one of these fuckers and so when they all get fired they are blacklisted from any other job forever.

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      On the surface that seems like a great plan. But that will give them time to go cause trouble. Idle hands and all that. Plus, when they run out of money, our taxes will pay for them. Same with if you put them in jail. The only obvious punishment should be to banish them from the US. Ya’know, deport them.

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        The only obvious punishment should be to banish them from the US. Ya’know, deport them.

        Fuck that. They’re your problem. You keep them.

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        The only obvious punishment should be to banish them from the US. Ya’know, deport them.

        Or line them up against a wall and execute them on live TV to show what happens to fascists when a country isnt run by absolute pussies.

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          I dont think they should be deported. They shouldn’t be free, and future admins shouldn’t validate the premise that any government has the right to make someone stateless.

          Instead, we should convert something like GitMo and detain them all there- imprisoned, with no right to trials as they’re no longer on US soil.

          Alternatively, we could take a page out of russia’s handbook, and conscript them into the army, make them a special unit, and send them all to Ukraine to be Frontline soldiers. They clearly co sider themselves to be pseuo military, and magas all think theyre combating antifa- well, RuZzia claims theyre only in Ukraine to denazify it- therefore all the Russian soldiers are artifa!

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    Come on. Even a dickheaded MAGA imbecile must be able to relate to the absolute foul of someone interrupting a dump like this? If you can’t see that this has gone way too far, you are so incredibly good at lying to yourself.

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    Judges need to start issuing arrest warrants for contempt of court for immigration officials who ignore legal documents such as work permits. That’s the only thing that will stop things like in the article from happening. Also, as a reminder, crossing the border illegally is only a misdemeanor.

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      Bear in mind the courts have issued orders intending to halt a lot of the heinous shit the Trump administration’s been doing with no means to enforce them. I suppose it’s good to leave out as a paper trail for though.

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        There is a means to enforce them. Arrest Warrants for officials and paying to extradite from where ever they are. Judges are too chickenshit to do it.

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    if this were a socialist country, those ice agents WOULDN’T be going around arresting people left and right simply because of who they are and/or because of no reason whatsoever. seriously!

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    How long has ICE been a problem? And isn’t it quite obvious that nothing will change unless there is a different president?

    I wonder why this is still news, as if there is nothing more important.

    I get it, it is a huge issue and it is very important to document every single case, but justice can only be served after the republicans are gone. Until then, keep the material or send it to an attorney.

    But it is not news anymore.

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      How long has ICE been a problem?

      Since it was created. Really, since INS was created, from which ICE was branched off.

      And isn’t it quite obvious that nothing will change unless there is a different president?

      I don’t see why a different president would change anything. Remember: Tom Homan was originally an Obama appointee.

      but justice can only be served after the republicans are gone.

      Justice delayed is justice denied.

      But it is not news anymore.

      The fact that nothing is happening in response to this, Epstein, climate change, fascism, the rest of the polycrisis, etc., makes all these things more newsworthy, not less. USians need to see these things over and over and over until it makes them so nauseous that they can’t stand to do nothing anymore.

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        Thanks for sharing your viewpoint. Of course, we all want immediate justice. It is just not going to happen.

        I am still very unsure if it helps using news for this topic, or if there are not other, more urgent things to talk about. We will see, I guess

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      Remember his first term? The one where ICE put kids in cages, lost a lot of them, and some died? Starting to ring a bell?

      Then, do you also remember all the prosecutions against ICE agents during the following administration?

      If you do, please link it, because I sure as fuck don’t remember reading it.