• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    The kids died because they (their Republican parents) voted wrong.

    The idea that voting Harris in 2024 somehow insulated you from a natural disaster is the worst kind of magical thinking.

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      The idea that somehow voting for republicans at the federal, state and local level for the last 30 years would insulate you from the harm they have done to the country is the actual worst kind of magical thinking.

      Edit : but yeah, if Harris has won, FEMA wouldn’t have been gutted, the NWS wouldn’t have been gutted. These people would have gotten better weather data, and gotten it earlier, and our emergency services would have been on site faster and with more resources, which directly would have saved lives. Nothing fucking magical about that.

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        if Harris has won, FEMA wouldn’t have been gutted

        FEMA forced to restrict disaster spending because of low funds

        ~ 08/30/2023

        The Biden administration has stopped helping states rebuild from past disasters with money from the federal government’s main emergency fund, which is nearing depletion from dozens of storms and wildfires this year.

        This has been an ongoing budgetary fight between deficit hawks (of which Biden proudly counted himself a member going back 40 fucking years) and social welfare advocates. Trump took the next big leap in a parade march of staffing reductions and funding cuts. But this has been an ongoing mismanagement since the privatization and downsizing wave that Reagan imposed in the 1980s.

        If Harris had won an election that she lost in a landslide, she’d still have to contend with a Congress stuffed with deficit reactionaries on both sides of the aisle. She’d have whined about liberals not handing her Senate Supermajority and then signed whatever John Thune and Mike Johnson put on her desk, just like Biden did.

        Singling out scapegoats for a systemic nationwide ideological failure - particularly when they are the weakest and most vulnerable members of society - is the exact same brainworms bullshit that gets people like Trump elected President to begin with.

        Might as well blame the flooding on illegal immigration next.

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          Complaining about Biden’s handling of FEMA and comparing it to Trump’s is like equating a dumpster fire to an atomic weapon because they both burn stuff. The fact you are even presenting that as an argument shows how disingenuous your position is.

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            Complaining about Biden’s handling of FEMA

            This has been a degradation of service spanning half a dozen administrations over the course of decades. It is being driven by corporate mass media’s fixation on domestic fiscal austerity.

            This decline in public service is not unique to Biden or even to the United States.

            The fact you are even presenting that

            You need to put down your Great Man view of history and recognize the tidal social currents that got us here.

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              https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5430469/faq-fema-elimination

              That article was written just a few weeks before those Texas floods.

              You need to put down your Great Man view of history and recognize the tidal social currents that got us here.

              I don’t need to do shit. You need to re-read my comments and understand that there is a huge scale of difference between “not getting any more funding because of Republican legislators” and “actively cutting and shutting down a department that millions of Americans rely on every year to keep them from starving or becoming homeless”.

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      Their Republican governor and their Republican president gutted their flood warning staff, recently. If they’d received a flood warning they might have left the flat land next to the river and they might not be dead.

      So no, Harris wouldn’t have stopped the flood, but she wouldn’t have stopped the flood warning either.

      (Also extreme weather events are significantly more frequent due to climate change, and resisting efforts to reduce climate change has been Republican policy for decades.)

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        So no, Harris wouldn’t have stopped the flood, but she wouldn’t have stopped the flood warning either.

        This woman changing her vote would have had no effect on the outcome. Hell, the entire state flipping blue would not have changed the results.

        Also extreme weather events are significantly more frequent due to climate change

        Climate Change doesn’t stop and start with the changing of the US white house. Neither have individual administrations - even the “best” ones - curbed emissions sufficient to keep us under the 1.5C mark.

        You’d be more reasonable blaming the flooding on Bush or Obama than Trump or Biden. Hell, you’d be more reasonable blaming Saudi Arabia or China. Even then, you’re getting into “Gays Caused Katrina” territory when you try to blame individual natural disasters on long term environmental trends.

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          Dude, I put it in brackets for a reason.

          Also, your logic of “one vote wouldn’t change the outcome” doesn’t excuse her for voting for the shitpants nastiest, stupidest, most deceitful, blazen rapist daughter-lusting racist fraudster you could possibly imagine.

          He’s a complete piece of shit who shits all over the constitution and shits all over the American people, and there aren’t any good excuses for her allowing him in the Whitehouse again. She is part of the decision to enable this demolition of everything helpful or useful in the USA. Stop excusing it.

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            Also, your logic of “one vote wouldn’t change the outcome” doesn’t excuse her

            “Your kid deserves to die because you voted wrong” is biblically delusional. At this point, you’re no better than the freaks doing selfies in front of Alligator Alcatraz.

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              Her kid didn’t die and I wouldn’t wish that on her, but it’s another straw man and another attempt by you to excuse bad voters from the bad consequences of their bad actions.

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                Her kid didn’t die and I wouldn’t wish that on her

                The entire context of the post is her bemoaning the deaths from the flooding.

                it’s another straw man

                It’s people on the internet laughing up their sleeves at a bunch of dead children.

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                  Your straw men just with me so far, just in the last hour:

                  • One vote would have changed the presidency
                  • One state would have changed the presidency
                  • Trump and/or Biden caused the flood
                  • Climate change stops and starts with the changes in the Whitehouse
                  • Individual weather disasters are the same as long term climate change
                  • This woman’s voting record is so heinous that she deserves her children to die

                  I said nothing like any of those things. You invented them all.

                  I did say that she is responsible for her heinous voting record and that you shouldn’t excuse it. I did say that she is responsible for not just voting against the rapist in chief and the chum of Epstein that she’s so shocked isn’t releasing the Epstein files, but voting for him.

                  How about engaging with something that I actually said for once?