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    Accountability…not negotiable?

    sigh

    While at face value this person seems to make an honest plea, it’s just the same old thing. They don’t care until it affects them. Trump has made every effort to dismantle accountability and oversight, particularly in reference to anything he is setting in motion personally, since his first administration. Accountability is a weapon applied to his opponents and critics with made-up charges. Anyone who has been paying attention knows this.

    Just another person agreeing with “everything Trump does” that harms others or advances personal interest while ignoring what Trump actually does unless it affects their special interest.

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    I’m impressed honestly; seems to be a rare case of a republican voter thinking of people outside their immediate family. way too late to start, but doing it nonetheless.

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      only because the victims were white.

      she doesn’t give a fuck about all the immigrant minors trump “lost”. or all the children fighting for water and eating maggots in America’s Auschwitz.

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              don’t worry, soon it’ll reach the center of the earth and then it’ll start raising again in the other side.

              unless the earth is flat, maybe that’s why they want it to be flat

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      Yeah, I have nothing but applause for people like this. The hardest part of leaving a cult is being ostracized by your former peers and the mockery from the outside, leaving you with no social circle, which human beings are hard wired to avoid at nearly any cost.

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        Exactly this, we need to be open to people who start to question their conservative views. Ultimately, they are the people who could tip the balance by moving away from the right.

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    Well, let’s see, Rosie. He’s guilty of 34 felonies. He was often seen around and photographed with convicted sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, who called Trump his “closest friend of the last ten years”. He’s a rapist, literally defined as such for the record while in court for defaming his victim. He has a history of barging in on multiple Miss Teen USA minors in various stages of undress. Repeatedly. He made disgusting comments about his own daughter and her body (“voluptuous”, “a piece of ass”, etc) saying he might be dating her if he weren’t her father, says he got away with grabbing women “by the pussy” because he was famous, was found guilty of illegal campaign payments to a pornstar he had sex with while his wife was home with his infant child… Shall I go on?

    Do you think this man would let the legal age of consent in our country stop him? Why do you actually think his administration is suppressing the Epstein Files?? Even if he hung around sex traffickers Epstein and Maxwell yet somehow abstained from abusing their underage victims, he’s certainly protecting anyone who did! He’s certainly benefiting from keeping that client list secret! I’m glad that at least something is over the line for you, but you’re correct: you voted for everything he’s doing.

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    “Please reconsider, sir.”

    God these people are such cucks.

    They’re so rabidly “American” but they are the biggest pushover losers on the planet letting a felon rapist shit all over them repeatedly. That’s pretty decidedly NOT American.

    I’m trying to imagine what it would be like to be such a loser and I simply can’t wrap my mind around it.

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      I’m baffled that they truly believe Trump cares about them. Has there ever been an honest pro-worker president? JFK maybe?

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      It absolutely is American. It’s high time you guys accepted that.

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    You mean the guy that publicly bragged that owning the Miss Teen USA pageant allowed him to go backstage and ogle naked underage girls is hiding the Epstein list? You don’t say.

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      He’s not in the list as a client, he’s an accomplice to the human trafficking. He wasn’t just a client he was a part of the team

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      More than just on some list, he used to talk about how he and Epstein were great friends.

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    “Sick perversion” in the dark tongue of MAGA refers to “jovial non-hetero and non-cis people at a cool beach party surf off for cool people.”

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    We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing. Move along, citizen.

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    For anyone still not clued in on this, trump wasn’t on the Epstein list as a client, he was on it as an partner/accomplice!

    He’s not just a member, he’s also the president

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      Donald Trump: Spends every waking minute of his life being a huge piece of shit to basically everyone he crosses paths with

      MAGA: Surprised Pikachu Face “I’m starting to think there’s a small chance that Donald Trump might actually not care about me. No that can’t be it. He’s totally going to follow through on his promise to deliver unicorns and fairy dust any minute now.”

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        He never promised that, though. He promised to rid the land of gnomes, an under appreciated linchpin species. He also promised to reveal who has been pissing in the town well. By doing that, the unicorns and fairy dust would return naturally.

        What he didn’t mention was that aggressive deforestation had killed all the unicorns and fairies. And even if they did come back, they’d be shot on sight because an endangered species would halt the deforestation and that’s currently profitable. Once the wildfires take out the rest of the enchanted forest, the townspeople will likely die in agony with their dignity stripped away, but that’ll be profitable, too, if they can convince enough people that their support will put them on the survivor’s side!

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        It wasn’t even a campaign of caring about others. Like the first stupid 4 years, it was about hurting the “right” people. And they don’t see themselves as the ones who could be hurt, until it’s too late.

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          if you understand the world to be necessarily a zero sum game, you think the only way to win is eliminate everyone else at the table. these deluded fools are so certain it’s a zero sum game they can’t fathom that this isn’t our goal, too. meanwhile, the left’s proposed solution is to step away from the table. to stop playing. to distribute all the chips in the pot to everyone

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        To think that a perv who openly expresses hos sexual desires for his own daughter is going to care about other people’s children is mind-boggling.

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        “The radical liberals are making him act like that” is the new maga mental gymnastics back flip right into denial river. This orange moron is their infallible god.

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          I wish these people were smart enough to understand how stupid the phrase ‘radical liberal’ is

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      Unfortunately, we’ve got a national media landscape that is absolutely choked with reactionary messaging and fascist propaganda.

      I can’t really blame a woman way out in West Texas - absolutely swimming in the slurry of AM Radio and right-wing press and arch-conservative religious institutions and social circles - who comes of age thinking that the “Pro-Life Party” actually gives a shit about the lives of young children while the “Far Left Socialist Party” wants to feed your innocent white babies into a Chinese Muslim wood chipper.

      Probably doesn’t help when the liberal party that ostensibly represents the state’s enfranchised opposition spends half their time insisting “Actually yes! Immigration and tax cuts and oil drilling and Israel are the things that matter most! Those conservatives are just doing it incorrectly. They should govern more like Andrew Cuomo and Gavin Newsom!”

      I’m dreading going into 2026, when the national big topic of conversation is going to be whether George Soros paid ISIS illegal immigrants to install the windmills that caused West Texas 9/11.

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      It doesn’t matter what he does. The other party ran on look how bad he is and he still won. The strategy of look at the bad stuff he does doesn’t matter when it comes to changing things. It’s just the other side of the outrage profit machine.

      The only thing anybody can do is talk about how they will changed it. If that is even possible anymore by using the system and if not, how to change it via organized resistance. (I’m talking French style resistance not a hashtag or changing your profile picture or other online bullshit like that).

      Pointing fingers and saying how bad they are or showing the hypocrisy like John Stewart had been doing for decades now. Flat out doesn’t work.

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      I know it flies in the face of this subs reason to exist but these people will still vote for him.

      Despite their whinging when an election comes around they will be reminded about what ever wedge issue got them out last time and go vote Republican.

      These people are entirely capable of being shocked Pikachu and voting for that at the same time.

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        Back in 2016 I got my sister to take one of those tests where you answer a bunch of questions and it shows how well various politicians agree with you.

        She matched with Hillary Clinton like, 83%. Nearest Republican was 56% or something.

        She outright said, “Well, she’s pro-abortion so I can’t vote for her.”

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      Only if she continued that sentence a bit more

      “everything you are doing: protect the interests of the billionaires many of which are in the list… Oh yeah…”

      Not that voting for democrats would change anything lol

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    This is literally the opposite of LAMF.

    LAMF means supporting someone saying they’ll do a thing, incorrectly assuming they’ll do the thing only to others and not you(r [collective]), without the someone having explicitly stated such.

    Then when the thing IS done to you (r collective]) as well, the LAMF is confirmed by them complaining that it was, or acting surprised that it was.

    If you support someone when they promise to do something, then they DON’T do it, that’s literally as far from LAMF as you can be.

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      I think I get what you mean. You’re saying that lying to people saying you are going to help them, them assuming it is true, and then you not doing so doesn’t include the part that it is supposed to hurt others if I understand correctly, right?

      So this is just a standard lie of not helping people who thought their community would be safer with this pedophile ring exposed and off the streets.

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        Yeah, LAMF is the phenomenon of ‘I voted for X to be done, but because I assumed it’d be done to others, not me’.

        As in ‘I voted for the Leopards Eating Faces party, but I didn’t expect them to eat MY face!’

        A politician not doing what they promised to do is not LAMF.

        But, for example, voting for someone because they said they’ll cut funding from wasteful government programs, and then complaining when funding is cut from a wasteful program that you were utilizing, is textbook LAMF.

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    i voted for everything you are doing!

    That’s right, you did. Including this. Put on the big girl pants and own your fuckup, but know you won’t be forgiven. Ever.

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          There was that one lady who was present at the Capitol on J6 (I think she was arrested and convicted?) who has since publicly recognized her error, and (as I recall) refused the blanket pardon, because she admits that what went on there was criminal.

          That lady is fine by me. She is the singular example of someone actually on the path to redemption that I am aware of.

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          Yeah, I don’t see myself having an ounce of hope or patriotism for this country again if the primary actors in all this treasonous chaos aren’t imprisoned for life or executed at some point.

          So, basically, I’m not expecting to ever really give a shit about this country again.

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      Put on the big girl pants and own your fuckup

      We play this game every four years. New President, new crisis, new media cycle of people screaming “This is only happening because you voted for the Other Guy!” Congress and the White House change hands, and then we do it all again.

      Nobody seems to want to confront the fact that these kids were camped in the middle of a fucking flood plain at the start of Hurricane Season. Or that the constant cuts to state agencies and monitoring services - cuts that have been ongoing since the Nixon Era, under virtually every administration - have degraded our ability to prevent these kinds of tragedies well past the point of a single administration tinkering around the edges of policy.

      We all just want to screw our eyes shut and say “Your kids deserved to die because you voted wrong”, which is an fucking insane thing to believe and exactly the kind of magical thinking that got us to this point.

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        Despite the cuts and everything, they were still warned of the potential of floods. The camp chose to ignore it.

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        We play this game every four years. New President, new crisis, new media cycle

        If you really believe that all this (waves hand around) is business as usual you’ve been living under a bigger rock and/or are in deeper denial than OOP.

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          you’ve been living under a bigger rock

          Not a rock. Iraq.

          Identical unitary executive. Identical look-the-other-way SCOTUS. Identical pliant media. Torture of dissidents. Police disappearing people. Purges of opposition from the bureaucracy. Right wing militias doing domestic terrorism. Ecological disasters going unreported. Leftists getting blamed for making things worse. Liberals passively green lighting fascism. Bubble economy with jobless growth. People on the Internet telling you this is totally different than Reagan.

          It’s happening again.

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        We all just want to screw our eyes shut and say “Your kids deserved to die because you voted wrong”, which is an fucking insane thing to believe and exactly the kind of magical thinking that got us to this point.

        That’s the worst part of it all. It is the kids who die, who had no say in the matter, no those who voted.

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          The kids died because they (their Republican parents) voted wrong. The kids died because they didn’t want to spend the money Biden gave them for an alert system on an actual alert system, and instead gave it to the sheriff. The kids died because of Republican cuts to FEMA call centers. The kids died because of profit-seeking psychopaths put the bare minimum (of even that) of cell service in that area. They died because we’ve spent the last 30 years shooting down any kind of climate action legislation.

          Those kids died because of Republicans. Full stop.

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            The kids died because they (their Republican parents) voted wrong.

            The idea that voting Harris in 2024 somehow insulated you from a natural disaster is the worst kind of magical thinking.

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              The idea that somehow voting for republicans at the federal, state and local level for the last 30 years would insulate you from the harm they have done to the country is the actual worst kind of magical thinking.

              Edit : but yeah, if Harris has won, FEMA wouldn’t have been gutted, the NWS wouldn’t have been gutted. These people would have gotten better weather data, and gotten it earlier, and our emergency services would have been on site faster and with more resources, which directly would have saved lives. Nothing fucking magical about that.

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                if Harris has won, FEMA wouldn’t have been gutted

                FEMA forced to restrict disaster spending because of low funds

                ~ 08/30/2023

                The Biden administration has stopped helping states rebuild from past disasters with money from the federal government’s main emergency fund, which is nearing depletion from dozens of storms and wildfires this year.

                This has been an ongoing budgetary fight between deficit hawks (of which Biden proudly counted himself a member going back 40 fucking years) and social welfare advocates. Trump took the next big leap in a parade march of staffing reductions and funding cuts. But this has been an ongoing mismanagement since the privatization and downsizing wave that Reagan imposed in the 1980s.

                If Harris had won an election that she lost in a landslide, she’d still have to contend with a Congress stuffed with deficit reactionaries on both sides of the aisle. She’d have whined about liberals not handing her Senate Supermajority and then signed whatever John Thune and Mike Johnson put on her desk, just like Biden did.

                Singling out scapegoats for a systemic nationwide ideological failure - particularly when they are the weakest and most vulnerable members of society - is the exact same brainworms bullshit that gets people like Trump elected President to begin with.

                Might as well blame the flooding on illegal immigration next.

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                  Complaining about Biden’s handling of FEMA and comparing it to Trump’s is like equating a dumpster fire to an atomic weapon because they both burn stuff. The fact you are even presenting that as an argument shows how disingenuous your position is.

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              Their Republican governor and their Republican president gutted their flood warning staff, recently. If they’d received a flood warning they might have left the flat land next to the river and they might not be dead.

              So no, Harris wouldn’t have stopped the flood, but she wouldn’t have stopped the flood warning either.

              (Also extreme weather events are significantly more frequent due to climate change, and resisting efforts to reduce climate change has been Republican policy for decades.)

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                So no, Harris wouldn’t have stopped the flood, but she wouldn’t have stopped the flood warning either.

                This woman changing her vote would have had no effect on the outcome. Hell, the entire state flipping blue would not have changed the results.

                Also extreme weather events are significantly more frequent due to climate change

                Climate Change doesn’t stop and start with the changing of the US white house. Neither have individual administrations - even the “best” ones - curbed emissions sufficient to keep us under the 1.5C mark.

                You’d be more reasonable blaming the flooding on Bush or Obama than Trump or Biden. Hell, you’d be more reasonable blaming Saudi Arabia or China. Even then, you’re getting into “Gays Caused Katrina” territory when you try to blame individual natural disasters on long term environmental trends.

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                  Dude, I put it in brackets for a reason.

                  Also, your logic of “one vote wouldn’t change the outcome” doesn’t excuse her for voting for the shitpants nastiest, stupidest, most deceitful, blazen rapist daughter-lusting racist fraudster you could possibly imagine.

                  He’s a complete piece of shit who shits all over the constitution and shits all over the American people, and there aren’t any good excuses for her allowing him in the Whitehouse again. She is part of the decision to enable this demolition of everything helpful or useful in the USA. Stop excusing it.

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        Stop virtue signaling. If dead kids remove fascists, then their deaths weren’t in vain. Otherwise, zero. Fucks. Given.

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          Sorry, but this is ambiguous and I need clarification: Dead Texan kids or dead Palestinian ones? Which dead kids are you exchanging for this putative “fascist-free” vision where your cost to entry is an adjustment to your personal empathy dial?

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            Both.

            Texan kids: See Gov. Abbott denying funds for the systems. And now trying to dodge blame. Not to mention, Texas routinely is anti children.

            Palestinian kids: See Abandon Harris and the leftists that either voted Jill Stein or sat out in protests.

            And also when I mean if dead kids leads to removal of fascists, I mean a sweeping removal of Trump and down. That included Vance, Massey, MTG, blowjob Boebert, Desantis, Huckabee, Abbott, Bondi, Noem, and so on. If this eventually makes America wake up and remove them ALL then the deaths were not in vain.

            So to answer your question, both.

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              Tough bargain, but at least it’s not playing favorites, and is at least a sober, realistic take.