Pharma manufacturer Gilead making available at cost (2 million doses in most needed countries) while generics are developed and can later be distributed. Decent play from a Pharma company.
incredible news. i am saddened for everyone lost during the last 44 years.
As am I, but don’t stop counting yet. I’m sure this administration will guarantee many more are lost.
This would be a whole lot more uplifting without the news about getting rid of the woke preventative medicine panel.
christ
It’s so nice to have these vaccines to protect us and allow us to live a fuller life…. I wonder what republicans are gonna do about it?… or is Kennedy gonna stop it from hitting shelves?
Just want to be clear to anyone reading that this is not an HIV vaccine, it’s a long-lasting antiviral medication. Similar therapies have been approved since 2012, and an injection that lasts for two months was approved in 2021.
The main benefit of a once-every-six-month injection is for people at high risk with very limited access to healthcare. PrEP is great but this is a fairly minor improvement to existing therapies.
To be fair to those calling it a vaccine, it is a preventative medication administered by injection twice a year. For a layperson, that sounds like a vaccine.
I’ve seen the word vaccine appear at least 5 times in this thread. It’s weird that people are going there.
Wow! AIDS was a death sentence when I was young, no chance of survival.
It still is bad. This is a prevention vaccine not a cure vaccine.
True, although the treatment also got a long way with people living hood lifes for many decades after initial diagnosis now. Also I heard they had some success actually curing HIV in a lab environment using some kind of modified retrovirus. That will most like still take till the 30’s before it becomes available though.
Uh, a vaccine is a preventative, not a cure. That idea is contained in the definition of “vaccine”.
Sometimes “passive vaccine” is used to describe an injection of antibodies to directly fight an ongoing disease.
i read the article and they also mentioned that they already got it approved for patients already infected with HIV back in 2022. idk about its effectiveness though
They said 99%. Do if you have sex with 100 randos you can still get infected.
actually if you have sex with 100 randos, with this medicine, the chance of getting infected is only about 63%, or
1 - exp(100*-0.01)… even less if you also use a condom.
The numbers are more complicated then that. PIV sex you are less likely to transfer HIV then anal. Which is why gay men are effected by the disease more.
I’ve had sex with 50 randos, no AIDS. Just not my time?
It depends on what percentage of the population has HIV or aids in your community. It usually isn’t that high, depending on where you are. Even if some of them had HIV / aids and you were completely unprotected, the risk of getting the disease isn’t 100%.
its been survival with proper treatment, no longer getting AIDS. of course there are people that still engage in risky behavior, and 1 person made news with untreated HIV a tapeworm gave him cancer, the tapeworm got cancer and gave the guy with hiv tapeworm cancer, which is unheard of.
Go look up side effects of medications. Even if controlled, your kidneys and liver are in for a bad time.
This was apparently on June 18. Here’s NBC’s coverage of it: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-hiv-prevention-drug-prep-lenacapavir-rcna208387
I’m trying to find other outlets that confirm “The makers are also providing affordable access to the drug in the US and beyond, signing royalty-free licensing agreements with six generic manufacturers to produce and supply it.”, which NBC’s article doesn’t say.
Oh that’s cool! If you find the source please do share (or post it again! This is good news).
Insurance Companies: nah.
Great! Now we preferably need something that we don’t need to use twice a year, and we could actually vaccinate everyone.
Because realistically, most people will not take a vaccine twice a year just in case.
Around the world, MSM (men who have sex with men - not necessarily gay) are 25 times more likely than average to contract HIV, reports UNAIDS. (healthline).
Among MSM, Black and Hispanic men are at higher risk than white men of contracting the virus, reports the CDC.
This may be because, according to a 2017 source, Black and Hispanic gay and bisexual men are less likely to take preventive medication. The reasons for this include the stigma surrounding same-sex experiences and the stress of enduring racism, discrimination, and racist systems.
Also, HIV also tends to affect people in under-resourced communities with less access to preventive HIV care.
Physical factors include the protective lining of the anus being thinner than the wall of the vagina, increasing the risk of transmission.
Thanks for additional info! For particularly endangered groups, this may make all the sense to take it, then.
I mean I just went to see if I could get a Covid shot at cvs and without insurance it was going to cost $200, so these same communities who typically can’t afford insurance, probably won’t be able to afford the vaccine.
There are free clinics in some areas specifically serving these communities for this reason. Disproportionately impacted by thr disease, and more likely to be unable to pay due to economic disadvantage.
Gay men are at a much higher risk for HIV so they may take it twice a year.
Peter Marks was forced out of the FDA by Trump, in part for refusing to spread disinformation about vaccines. I didn’t think we’d be able to believe anything they say for the next few years.
Yeah but Trump pulling funding means people who need it can’t afford it. I guess if a person has HIV and voted for Trump… they wanted that? Weird.
Cool, can I get this shot when I get my flu shot?
if everyone got the shot, we could eliminate HIV forever. it would be like polio, a bad dream that we shudder to think about but don’t fear.
I thought you were only supposed to get the flu shot once a year?
Yeah but it would motivate people like me to get around to it
And it only took doctors and scientists 5 decades. Not bad. 👍
Twice a year injectables are very scary to me because an adverse reaction is something may last more than half a year. You could be in for a bad time.
ETA Before getting angry, read my response below.
Scarier than AIDS?
Speaking as someone with HIV, the worst part is actually the medication. I’ve literally spent at least 6 months at home at various points because the side effects are so bad that I sometimes need a week or two to adjust to any changes. I’ve had to try 6-8 combinations just to find something whose side effects were light enough that I could work. One caused me such bad abdominal distention that I couldn’t eat solid food for about 1.5 years and I formed a hernia that required surgery.
So yes, for me, most of them are genuinely worse than dying.
Now I think you were just saying something rude to me a moment ago.
