I’ll go get the Big List of Biden Accomplishments - all of which were wins of varying sizes from small to historic - for “voters” and draw out all the boo birds who don’t give a crap.
“Offering the voters anything” how about NOT fascism and all the science, education, and aid stays properly funded? No? Maybe this isn’t the target market for that kind of thing. Maybe we need the soccer moms and whatever because the radical left won’t even support AOC for . . . what was it? Oh yeah “shepherding neolibs into the DNC”.
Everytime Biden could have had a big win he went the opposite direction, just like the Kamala campaign.
Student loan forgiveness - > use weakest method, water down and drag out to pointlessly means test then say you can’t do anything after courts say no. With bonus we’ll let the loans start back up as a compromise for nothing with gop
Gaza genocide - > say you’re doing everything you can to stop it while doing nothing but give weapons to those doing the genocide.
Trump does treason - > out a republican in place who slow walks the investigation so it takes so long trump back in office to shut it down.
Build back better - > continuously give in to 1 senator until it’s so watered down it doesn’t even do what it started out to accomplish.
how about NOT fascism - > were going to do their exact immigration bill to prove we’re just as hard on minorities as they are.
Yeah. Maybe if we could get a majority in both houses that didn’t include Manchin, Sinema, or Lieberman. Maybe some people could run that were able to win?
Here’s the thing. You, and most Americans, don’t have the balls to put these people in a guillotine. Those are just big words you’re using on the internet.
You aren’t getting Universal Healthcare in the next election. Or the one after that. Reality, especially in this country of fat asses sitting on their couches, is not going to be we get it all now or they get executed. The reality is we’re going to have to dig in and start the long process of reforming the Democrat party by primarying people that won’t get onboard with our demands. Conservatives literally just did that to the Republican party over the last decade or so.
No offense but the rate things are deteriorating, the new gestapo are going to have people like me and you in the guillotine within the next decade. Thanks for fucking us both over and ensuring NO ONE gets medical funding, jackass.
The only way you get universal healthcare is a DNC supermajority AND a DNC president, which is literally not an option.
You could get maximum 67 DNC in the midterms if you magically removed every Republican up for reelection, and then use that to remove Trump, but then the order of succession falls on other Republicans.
The one thing I am tired of more than excuses and being blamed for inciting fascists is doom and gloom bullshit that only serves GOP interests.
Your options are Universal Healthcare, or the guillotine. You seem to be suggesting that the first choice is impossible. I will concede it is difficult, but it is considerably better than the second choice. I urge you to choose wisely.
You had a D president and D majorities in the house (39 seat) and the senate (7 seat). Best you could do was Obamacare. If a single guy can neutralize a 7-seat majority, and you can’t take away his power to do that (you could, but you didn’t) then the game is clear. It’s been a controlled opposition scenario for a long time now.
There’s a method of getting rid of the filibuster with a simple majority - the so called “nuclear option” we’ve been hearing about. Perhaps you agree that the public option wasn’t worth it. I don’t. And I claim that was a deliberte choice made by the controlled opposition to protect private capital. They could have passed it, but they didn’t and the story sold that time was bad Joe Lieberman killed it.
It’s literlly called that. For as long as I’ve been following US politics, it hasn’t been a question of whether the filibuster could be removed to pass legislation with 51 votes. Instead the discussions have been around whether something is worth setting the precedent.
So basically a Senator claims that the Senate rules have been violated, the (senate) president disagrees, the senator appeals and a simple majority decides right or wrong.
Given that quite clearly no rules were actually broken, whats to stop State Attorney Generals from suing the US Federal Government to prevent implementation just like they did with countless other things, namely student loan forgiveness?
The nuclear option is made possible by the principle in Senate procedure that appeals from rulings of the chair on points of order relating to nondebatable questions are themselves nondebatable.
“Points of order” are different than legislation like healthcare.
The use of the nuclear option to abolish the 60-vote threshold for cloture on legislation has been proposed, but not successfully effected.
the republican neutered the original bill of "ACA’ and they wernt going to agree with it unless its watered down, plus there were a ton of DINOS at the time too.
Biden’s biggest accomplishment is letting Trump win by fucking up the election and taking up bad policies.
Nah, you’re just completely and utterly ignorant to all of his actual accomplishments because you never bothered to pay attention and have a fetish for whining.
Fucking up at the end of your term doesn’t erase everything else you did accomplish.
Is this the list with all the duplicate entries that gives biden credit for Obama’s accomplishments and counts repainting air force one as an accomplishment?
trump and congress already set up THE dEMS TO fail on thier next election anyways, with the BBB, and department cuts, they will issue all MSM to blame Ds non-stop, conservatives, and low info people have memory of goldfishes.
I’ll go get the Big List of Biden Accomplishments - all of which were wins of varying sizes from small to historic - for “voters” and draw out all the boo birds who don’t give a crap.
“Offering the voters anything” how about NOT fascism and all the science, education, and aid stays properly funded? No? Maybe this isn’t the target market for that kind of thing. Maybe we need the soccer moms and whatever because the radical left won’t even support AOC for . . . what was it? Oh yeah “shepherding neolibs into the DNC”.
Biden didn’t off either of those, lol.
???
Everytime Biden could have had a big win he went the opposite direction, just like the Kamala campaign.
Student loan forgiveness - > use weakest method, water down and drag out to pointlessly means test then say you can’t do anything after courts say no. With bonus we’ll let the loans start back up as a compromise for nothing with gop
Gaza genocide - > say you’re doing everything you can to stop it while doing nothing but give weapons to those doing the genocide.
Trump does treason - > out a republican in place who slow walks the investigation so it takes so long trump back in office to shut it down.
Build back better - > continuously give in to 1 senator until it’s so watered down it doesn’t even do what it started out to accomplish.
how about NOT fascism - > were going to do their exact immigration bill to prove we’re just as hard on minorities as they are.
I’ll settle for Universal Healthcare.
Yeah. Maybe if we could get a majority in both houses that didn’t include Manchin, Sinema, or Lieberman. Maybe some people could run that were able to win?
I’m tired of excuses. Universal Healthcare, or guillotine.
Here’s the thing. You, and most Americans, don’t have the balls to put these people in a guillotine. Those are just big words you’re using on the internet.
You aren’t getting Universal Healthcare in the next election. Or the one after that. Reality, especially in this country of fat asses sitting on their couches, is not going to be we get it all now or they get executed. The reality is we’re going to have to dig in and start the long process of reforming the Democrat party by primarying people that won’t get onboard with our demands. Conservatives literally just did that to the Republican party over the last decade or so.
Make your choice.
No offense but the rate things are deteriorating, the new gestapo are going to have people like me and you in the guillotine within the next decade. Thanks for fucking us both over and ensuring NO ONE gets medical funding, jackass.
I’m even more tired of taking the blame for “inciting fascists to fascist” than I am tired of excuses.
Your options are “Universal Healthcare” or “Guillotine”.
The only way you get universal healthcare is a DNC supermajority AND a DNC president, which is literally not an option.
You could get maximum 67 DNC in the midterms if you magically removed every Republican up for reelection, and then use that to remove Trump, but then the order of succession falls on other Republicans.
The one thing I am tired of more than excuses and being blamed for inciting fascists is doom and gloom bullshit that only serves GOP interests.
Your options are Universal Healthcare, or the guillotine. You seem to be suggesting that the first choice is impossible. I will concede it is difficult, but it is considerably better than the second choice. I urge you to choose wisely.
You don’t have those options. You can either work slowly towards a better future or do what you’re doing now: nothing of value.
Sure, good luck!
You had a D president and D majorities in the house (39 seat) and the senate (7 seat). Best you could do was Obamacare. If a single guy can neutralize a 7-seat majority, and you can’t take away his power to do that (you could, but you didn’t) then the game is clear. It’s been a controlled opposition scenario for a long time now.
Well yeah, 57 isn’t 60, so it couldn’t pass filibuster. They could remove the need for filibuster but that ALSO REQUIRES 60 VOTES.
Ending the filibuster forever requires only 51. Don’t lie on behalf of the people who won’t do it just because you like the results.
There’s a method of getting rid of the filibuster with a simple majority - the so called “nuclear option” we’ve been hearing about. Perhaps you agree that the public option wasn’t worth it. I don’t. And I claim that was a deliberte choice made by the controlled opposition to protect private capital. They could have passed it, but they didn’t and the story sold that time was bad Joe Lieberman killed it.
Whats your magical solution to remove the filibuster with 50 votes and a VP?
It’s literlly called that. For as long as I’ve been following US politics, it hasn’t been a question of whether the filibuster could be removed to pass legislation with 51 votes. Instead the discussions have been around whether something is worth setting the precedent.
So basically a Senator claims that the Senate rules have been violated, the (senate) president disagrees, the senator appeals and a simple majority decides right or wrong.
Given that quite clearly no rules were actually broken, whats to stop State Attorney Generals from suing the US Federal Government to prevent implementation just like they did with countless other things, namely student loan forgiveness?
“Points of order” are different than legislation like healthcare.
the republican neutered the original bill of "ACA’ and they wernt going to agree with it unless its watered down, plus there were a ton of DINOS at the time too.
How many republicans agreed to vote for it at the end?
What do you mean they watered it down? It started out as their halfway plan, ie Romneycare.
Then why did the Republicans filibuster Romneycare and then recently froze all of it’s funding? Why did they campaign on removing it, twice?
Because it was implemented by dems and gave things to the poors and minorities.
It’s also why they don’t have a replacement because it was their plan.
So its both leftist anti-elite legislation and also corrupt republican-lite legislation, got it.
Technically the Republicans didn’t even agree with the watered down bill, the one we had to convince to pass via supermajority was Ind Joe Leieberman.
Biden’s biggest accomplishment is letting Trump win by fucking up the election and taking up bad policies.
The blame is with the democrats for not appealing to their base, not with voters for not siding with them.
Nah, you’re just completely and utterly ignorant to all of his actual accomplishments because you never bothered to pay attention and have a fetish for whining.
Fucking up at the end of your term doesn’t erase everything else you did accomplish.
Is the radical left in the room with us now?
Do you see them now
I didn’t know opposition to genocide was a radical stance.
Goddamn, it got removed before I could reply.
You bet your sweet bippy
Is this the list with all the duplicate entries that gives biden credit for Obama’s accomplishments and counts repainting air force one as an accomplishment?
trump and congress already set up THE dEMS TO fail on thier next election anyways, with the BBB, and department cuts, they will issue all MSM to blame Ds non-stop, conservatives, and low info people have memory of goldfishes.
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Are you arguing with yourself here?
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Are you trying to claim Biden didn’t commit genocide?