(Disclaimer: I voted against Trump and anyone who supported him in my state.)

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    depends on how much of his immunity he chooses to exercise. also be intrtesting to see how many of the new repuglicans fall into line with his shit policy

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    Let’s be real we are fucked no matter who the president is. With or without him the world is headed down the toilet.

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    I’m more scared of the JD Vance than Trump. He’s much worse

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      I’m worried about this too. It wouldn’t be surprising if Trump dies in the next four years. Vance is not qualified for the job. He’s smarter than Trump though so scheming would be much worse.

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        Vance himself is irrelevant, the problem is he’s an errand boy for the would-be technocracy.

        The world is on the precipice of an unbreakable tyranny, and he wants to give the keys of power to the ones making the drone armies.

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    We’re going to have a great 4 years. The first 2 will be amazing if we actually get a super majority.

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    Weirdly, it depends on how honest Trump is.

    If he forgets about everything he talked at any part of the campaign, and just decide to maximize his tranquility during his term, not as bad as if he decides to keep his promises.

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      I’m hoping he just focuses on enriching himself. Clearing his convictions and then lining his pockets with more NFTs and corruption. That’ll keep him sufficiently occupied to not fuck too much with the lives of everyday people.

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    The world is fucked. A climate change denier was elected to one of the most influential countries and we’re already past mitigating some of the worst effects. There is no coming back.

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    Well, they want to dismantle a lot of the stuff that protects the middle and working classes. The country will be fine. The people will suffer. Democracy? Judgement is reserved. If he follows through on his idea of a third term without a legitimate amendment to the Constitution then it’s very very dead. But we won’t know that for years.

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    We’ll be fine. Yes shit will be fucked up but democracy will not die. We’ll try again in 2028 and thankfully Trump is capped out after this. Maybe midterms will show some shift

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      trump just barely failed to steal it last time, this time he has the fucking supervillain crackpot team behind him.

      If he wants to do it, all he has to do is make the call.

      He has the executive, he has the house, he has the senate, he will most likely completely have the supreme court, there is literally nobody to tell him no anymore.

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      I took this attitude the first time Trump was elected, and boy was I wrong. Not this time. Now, I’m seriously considering what his options might be for eliminating the election in 2028. He needs to clean the military brass of people disloyal to him, which he can easily do as Commander in Chief. Once he’s got a loyal military, there’s virtually nothing he can’t do; and this SCOTUS will let him do anything he wants, so long as it aligns with the view of Evangelical Christians, who have been wanting a theocracy for decades. He can conjure the specter of “Democrat corruption” to justify eliminating any opposition politicians as an official act, completely re-stock the FBI with loyalists to wage any legal battles he needs to make his actions seem legitimate and “official,” and arrest any problematic judges under the same “corruption” myth so that he can then replace them with loyalists.

      Honestly, we’ve seen this playbook before in countries that are now dictatorships and Trump has already made it quite clear he wants to be a dictator. There is absolutely no reason to be convinced this will not happen. It might not happen, but there’s no reason to think definitely will not.

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      Naive.

      Edit: I’m guessing you’re a straight with male with no children or family who are lgbtq.

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        That’s right, bringing race, gender, and other demographic variables into it totally makes your argument stronger. It definitely doesn’t expose your own prejudices at all, no siree.

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        Only part you got right is a straight male.

        You are the naive one to think 1 moron can destroy America. Trump can not be a moron and a master manipulator at the same time. The reality is he is too stupid to break anything beyond what can’t be fixed. We will have to rebuild in 2028. Yes there will be hardships but nothing we can’t fix. The only thing he fumbled hard with was the COVID response. So here’s hoping we don’t have another pandemic

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          This is such a dumb take. Just the fact you didnt mention something as clear as Ukraine’s genocide shows you have no idea what a corrupt idiot can do. He will be manipulated and it’s going to cause irreparable damage to society.

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              Exactly my point. You didn’t think about Ukraine, so of course you aren’t thinking of what this is going to do to the US when other countries abandon their deals too, and Trump retaliates/ sues.

              Youre in for a wild economic ride. I guess americans not understanding this is why he got elected. In a way you deserve this.

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                Based on your comment you aren’t even American so you can shut up now. Only an idiot would answer a question about the US with “Well Ukraine blah blah blah”.

                I didn’t mention Ukraine because the question had nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s not that deep. If you’re asking me how fucked is Ukraine, then yes they’re fucked. Sorry. I did my part and im not gonna let morons like you guilt trip me into beating myself up over it. I am along for the ride like everyone else.

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                  People give zero shits who you have as a president and what discrimination you guys support. This election affects everyone, like it did last time.

                  If you think US foreign policy doesn’t affect the US itself, nobody can help you.

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          What you’re missing here is that he has an openly corrupt supreme court behind him and everyone who was willing to tell him no is long gone. We’ll see how it plays out but it’s going to be hard to come back from this, and the Democrats are going to have to start paying attention and actually doing what voters want or there’s no hope for them.

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            I’m not missing anything. He didn’t destroy the country last time so I’m confident we will survive. Enough with the doom and gloom. We need to unite and be positive if we want to see any kind of change. It’s not time to give up

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          This is my thoughts as well. He is a really good bullshitter but isn’t able to get anything of substance done (for the most part). As long as the Republicans don’t get super majority, they won’t be able to do to much damage. My biggest fear is him getting more supreme court picks. I believe that’s going to cause the most lasting problems for our country.

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        Yes. Yes there will be. Even if everyone who voted for Trump is OK with it if you think the rest of America is just going to be ok with dismantling elections you’re being irrational.

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      We must come to the realization that America is deeply racist and sexist, incapable of electing a Black, Asian woman to its highest office because of our culture’s innate, widespread, and unreconciled bias and hatred.

      If that’s true, then why on earth would the DNC do everything in their power to ensure that was the only “choice” available to voters? Do they like losing?

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    Let me put it this way: we will see the true beginning of WW3 in the Baltics. Trump will predictably not act upon that and the response will be 100% up to Europe itself.

    That response better be an armed one, and quick too, or we all better start practicing cyrillic here in W-europe.

    Regardless if we are lucky, “only” tens of thousands will die. More likely it will be millions.

    So yeah, Trump kinda bedazzled us there, no way around it. Won’t be until the people who voted him in will start hurting personally that they’ll finally realize they’ve been conned. But too little too late.

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        Germany’s fatal mistake in WW2 was not being America instead.

        Who, exactly, is to take its place along with the British Empire and USSR in holding back fascism?

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      Won’t be until the people who voted him in will start hurting personally that they’ll finally realize they’ve been conned. But too little too late.

      Cute that you think they won’t just blame Mexicans when they do start hurting.

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    Before, his power was checked by legislature…but now GOP has full control over the gov, and the supreme Court has 5 members nominated by Trump, soon to be 7.

    Hand maidens tale seems possible. Destruction of the middle class through tariffs, union busting, tear down of heath coverage, teardown public schools, force colleges to abandon certain studies or no federal money…

    Add in non stop fossil fuel promotion with drill baby drill attitudes, tear down NOAA and the nhc because strong hurricane news reinforces climate change.

    I guarantee in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor instead of holding an election.

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      Add in non stop fossil fuel promotion with drill baby drill attitudes

      Do you remember a few years ago when the orange idiot hugged a piece of coal and called it “beautiful clean coal”? Ugh, what a dip shit.

      I guarantee in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor instead of holding an election.

      And it’ll certainly be one of his moronic children.

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      I guarantee in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor instead of holding an election.

      No. He will not name a successor, he will remain president. Either he will eliminate elections or he will do like his idol, Putin. Arrest and murder anyone who dares oppose him.

      He is an extreme narcissist and egotist. Like extreme extreme. He cannot see a future where he’s not on the throne.

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      Goddamnitalltohell. I forgot we’re going to have to subscribe to private disaster warning systems. That’s pretty much it in a nutshell. Perfectly describes everything they want to do.

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      in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor

      That would require the narcissist to not think he’s still young and vibrant and will never die. He will go the same way his father did, being manipulated by the worst around him as he drifts into dementia. He will be propped up as a puppet as Reagan was.

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        Here’s a horrifying thought: JD’s Silicon Valley puppetmasters wait until Trump has served just over 2 years into his term, then invoke the 25th and install JD. In the meantime, the MAGA types work the system to ensure they can guarantee a Vance victory through whatever means necessary for the next 2 cycles (since his first abbreviated session won’t count as an official term), or a total of 10 years, before most Americans even realize we have sleepwalked into a Vance dictatorship funded by and primarily benefiting oligarchs like Musk and Thiel

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        He will go the same way his father did, being manipulated by the worst around him as he drifts into dementia. He will be propped up as a puppet as Reagan was.

        I’m quite sure that this is already the case.

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        He could postpone the election if America is at war.

        “We have always been at war with Eastasia”

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      tear down NOAA

      Fuuuccckkkk… Add to the list of things I forgot… The AccuWeather guy is about to become even more wealthy…

      The billionaire class are the only winners of this election, but then again when aren’t they the winner? Money is literally power.

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      Trump had a Republican majority in the House and Senate when he entered office in 2017. They were incompetent, and it took them a while to get anything done.

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      Wanna bet he’ll put up one of his kids (hell perhaps even Barron?) and bend the whole sycophantic side of the GOP into endlesdly propping them up?

      In 4 years, you may simply get Trump III. I want to say this notion seems absurd, except that it absolutely isn’t.

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    Pretty fucked, but not as fucked as Ukraine, Palestine, Lebanon, or Taiwan.

    NATO will be fucked for a while if the US withdraws, but other NATO countries may ramp up military spending over time.

    This situation is a worldwide danger. The US is/was a world power, it has/had the largest national economy in the world, it has the largest military in the world.

    Previously, we could be concerned that democratic countries (including the US) weren’t putting enough pressure on authoritarian countries (like Russia, China, and North Korea) to improve. Now we have to worry that the US will actually become a fully authoritarian country, like Russia or China.

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      If NATO fades into oblivion, that would be a great opportunity for European countries to make a news defense organization where a single country like Hungary or Turkey can’t play their political games.

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        I expect that the EU is going to have to claim defence competencies to continue the Union’s defense. There are way too many small countries in NATO that can’t contribute meaningfully to a military beyond some basic battalions and the EU needs something more robust than France and Poland.

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      On the bright side… the rest of the world is realizing that being reliant on one country for military power and maintaining stability was a terrible idea. The UN and NATO only have power if the countries are willing to enforce those decisions, and if the US doesn’t, there isn’t really a comparable backup option. The US military was always the elephant in the room keeping things generally less extreme just by its existence and not reacting impulsively.