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The poll indicates support for the more aggressive position Newsom has taken in standing up to Donald Trump, particularly over a plan by Republicans in Texas to redraw their state’s congressional seat map in the hopes of winning more seats in midterm elections next year.
The battle to become the 2028 presidential election candidate will likely set the new direction for the Democratic Party as it struggles with net favorability at what one recent poll showed to be a three-year low. Newsom has not formally announced his candidacy.
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It might be a less popular opinion, but I’m really hopeful that Tim Walz gets the nod. He’s actually a human as opposed to a politician.
Gross.
I knew after the 2nd day of Newsom dick riding on reddit that this is what the democrats will shove down voters throats when the time comes.
What would the democratic party do if they didnt have the republicans to use as a cudgel against thier voters?
The blue conservatives in this comment section are suffering from a terminal case of Stockholm syndrome.
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The new poll, conducted by Echelon Insights, has Newsom in second place among potential Democratic candidates with 13 percent support, behind former Vice President Kamala Harris with 26 percent.
The number one spot right now is the woman who lost the last election, while number two is the guy who’s been in the news lately. This is basically just measuring name recognition. It’s more than 3 years until the election, a frontrunner is meaningless at this point.
Disgusting how people want to support someone who is pro-corporate and betrays trans rights.
Our country elected a pedophile rapist, nothing should be at all surprising anymore.
Capital has ruined our lands and destroyed our humanity collectively. This is it, this is our kingdom after we threw money at every new shiny bullshit toy and trend and convenience until we fed No-Face until he started digesting our very morals and ethics. (Pssst, that scene was a metaphor.)
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Yikes a transphobic dogwhistle and misinformation on sports. Trans women are biological women. Trans participating in sports was a non-issue in the us until the right started whining about it more recently. The International Olympic has stated that “no presumed advantage” based on sex assigned at birth or sex characteristics.
Women are more likely to participate in sports when trans players are included.
Cis-women receive harassment in sports because of comments like these.
Let me guess you don’t care about women and girls facing inequitable facilities, pay, and marketing; abusive coaches; and racist, sexist, and homophobic harassment.
Please folks learn more about the topic before listening to demagogues.
Yikes a transphobic dogwhistle
Yikes someone just jumped to a ridiculous conclusion. I’m not tranphobic. I don’t hate trans people the slightest bit. I just have a legitimate disagreement with you on this one thing.
Let me guess you don’t care about women and girls facing inequitable facilities, pay, and marketing; abusive coaches; and racist, sexist, and homophobic harassment.
You would guess wrong on all these things.
Trans participating in sports was a non-issue in the us until the right started whining about it more recently.
True enough. Now that they have given up on hating gays, they are going after trans.
The International Olympic has stated that “no presumed advantage” based on sex assigned at birth or sex characteristics.
Well now, if I hadn’t posted my mild comment that was removed for being politically incorrect, you wouldn’t have had the opportunity to inform me and others about this would you? Maybe you would have changed my mind if the discussion had been allowed to proceed. That’s why censorship is counterproductive and stupid. If someone post things I disagree with I would rather correct them then censor them.
At the time my comment was deleted, more people here approved of it than disapproved (4-3). So the censorship deprives yourself of the opportunity to convince others of your view.
It’s not even about “biological men competing in womens sports”, ultimately what it’s about is not wanting trans people to exist at all. The sports thing is a red herring, don’t fall for the bait.
When kids are trans, what they need is all the help and support we can provide. Puberty blockers and hormones to help facilitate. God forbid a kid should be comfortable in their own skin.
But, oh, no, we can’t allow that either because, again, the end goal is making it harder or impossible for them to simply exist. It’s not about sports and never has been.
ultimately what it’s about is not wanting trans people to exist at all.
Nope that’s bullshit. If you attributed that to Newsom then you’re the problem, not Newsom.
It’s not even about “biological men competing in womens sports”,
Yes, that is exactly what it is about. This one thing.
p.s. Did you actually delete my post just because I took this political stand of saying its not fair for trans women to compete in womens sports? Why would you do that? Is nobody allowed to have even a mildly politically incorrect opinion here? An enforced echo chamber does not help anybody.
I removed it because you’re engaging in transphobic dog whistles that are not fit for our communities.
And, again, as explained above, the sports argument is a red herring. That’s NOT what any of this is about, any more than it’s about “protecting children” or whatever other bullshit they want to throw out.
They want to eliminate trans people, full stop. Eliminating puberty blockers and hormone treatment, bathroom laws, and the nonsense about sports.
It all boils down to they don’t want trans people to exist, and if you start buying one piece of it, you buy all of it.
It’s the trans equivalent of what got Jimmy The Greek fired back in 1988, but I recognize that’s a little farther back than the internet remembers these days.
I removed it because you’re engaging in transphobic dog whistles
I’m not because I’m not transphobic and I don’t hate trans people at all. I just have a political disagreement with you about athletics.
They want to eliminate trans people, full stop.
Okay maybe some of them do. But I don’t. I just have a simple political disagreement with you about athletics.
It all boils down to they don’t want trans people to exist, and if you start buying one piece of it, you buy all of it.
I am proof that your slippery slope assumption is definitely false. There is a 0% chance that I am ever going to hate trans people. I just have a simple political disagreement with you about athletics. And if you don’t think there are other people here who have the same opinion, you’re wrong. By shutting down the discussion, you are depriving everybody of the opportunity to learn more and maybe have their minds changed. As a mod you should be trying very hard not to create an echo chamber. Or else explicitly list this opinion and any other opinions that people are not allowed to have here.
It’s the trans equivalent of what got Jimmy The Greek fired back in 1988
You arguing that having an athletics disagreement is the equivalent of “wanting to eliminate trans people” sounds to me like the equivalent of conservatives saying that wanting common sense gun regulations is the equivalent of “wanting to take your gun from you”. i.e. You’re taking a mild position and translating that into the most extreme position possible. That’s not something I want to see in a regular commenter, let alone a mod with the ability to silence people with disagreeable opinions.
https://transactual.org.uk/transphobia/
f) Tacit transphobia is still transphobia.
Actions designed to harm or take away trans people’s human rights are still transphobic even when not expressed in explicitly transphobic language, or not expressed in language at all. This tacit transphobia is often referred to as ‘dogwhistle’ transphobia. For example, one UK based transphobic hate group bought a full page advert which read: ‘Woman: an adult human female.’ The statement itself is not transphobic, but when the context for the statement is that the group in question believe that trans women can never be female the transphobic intent is clear. Similarly, when a football ‘fan’ throws a banana at a black player during a match, the racist intent is clear even though bananas are not inherently racist.
Dems need to ditch identity politics and focus on the class war just like Bernie keeps telling us.
It sucks but it’s kind of true. It won’t go over well in deeply left spaces but it’s not a matter of “compromise” we just have to fight smarter. We thought too highly of our population and expected too much. We are not a civilized nation that cares about others and never have been. We just got fed toxic positivity in our own little echo-chambers until we thought we could scold the rest of the country into being better.
I am saying this as someone who has supported equality and trans rights for years and years, but we’re not getting results pushing this boulder up the hill anymore. I care more about actually being able to achieve outcomes over if we’re taking the highest roads to get there.
New plan:
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Class war, not identity politics. Get every frustrated chud and hick mad at the right people, remind them over and over that they’re miserable because rich men took their money and didn’t give them anything back. Simple, direct narrative. Spice it up with memes and flashing lights. These people are bottom-of-the-barrel stupid.
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Reduce the wealth disparity so that people are less prone to violence and mistrust of people different, THEN rekindle the drive for equality and rights for all people no matter their identity, maybe even some level of kindness between people.
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Wake up because that was all just a good dream and climate change and AI warfare and genetic horrors are looming on the horizon and we’re probably just going to elect narcissistic psychopath after narcissistic psychopath until the world is literally burning and the average American middle-class family literally lives in a shanty.
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Get over it or the GOP wins again.
So we just go back to the rich getting more welfare?
well why the hell did you think he hired that woman to write his twitter posts?
Please no
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Americans are so fucking dumb oh my god
That’s the saddest part about this entire thing: using the technique of acting like a complete and utter moron is what fires up the American voting base.
Ugh.
Newsom Fetterman 2028. That’s sure to fix things right up.
OMG no. I can see that actually happening.
Yikes.
I swear US Democrats learn absolutely nothing. All you have to do is jingle some keys in their faces and they’ll applaud.
This is a guy who wants California Cities to force homeless people to move every 3 days. This is a guy who has threatened to cut funding to cities that don’t “crack down” on homeless people.
This is a guy who simply has one of his interns to write funny twitter posts and NOW he’s suddenly “presidential material”.
And some people honestly wonder how Trump was re-elected.
No. Fuck no. Hell the fuck no. He can keep doing his attack dog shit, that’s fine he IS NOT presidential material. He is not what this conversation ntry needs to fix the shit Republicans have deliberately broken.
So let’s say it does come down to Newsom v Vance. You really going to sit it out?
Yes. Will leave it blank until Dems put forward a candidate with proven policy
Rofl that’s so pathetic.
he’s not even the one doing it. Camille Zapata is. We should support her running for president.
He can keep doing his attack dog shit
That is exactly the kind of person we need to win elections though.
No, we need someone who can actually get shit done. Not someone who is only good at performative shows.
#1 prereq to get shit done is to get elected.
Well that sure would be easier if Democrats kept their fingers off the scale when popular candidates show up.
Last I heard everybody gets one vote.
Last I heard “…the DNC charter’s promise of ‘impartiality and evenhandedness’ as a mere political promise—political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts…”
To everyone complaining: this is the fucking primary. This is when you bring out your leftist candidate that can represent us against literal fascists.
Stop fucking whining and do something about it before it’s too late, Newsom wins the primary, and we all have to listen to you whine for another goddamn decade about how Democrats don’t represent us.
You must have missed the good news… We don’t have to be concerned with “dividing the party” any longer.
Just tried that in 2016. Debbie Schultz and Hillary decided to quell Bernie fervor, elevated Trump, and secured years of Trump and a fascist devolution. Utterly embarrassing. The Democratic party is not going to stop fascism.
Well let’s fucking make them do it again, in such a way that they can’t fucking make up the deficit. How long are people going to bitch about it and use it as an excuse it’s just not possible? Tides are changing. It’s fucking now or never
The Democratic party is not going to stop fascism.
Okay comrade. You know which party is as bad as fascism? The Communist party is every bit as bad.
Debbie Schultz and Hillary decided to quell Bernie fervor
Those 2 idiots decide for you whether you like Bernie or not? You look to them to make your decisions on who to support? LMFAO…
Until the Democratic Party just ignores primary results they don’t like.
Or they’re like sinema and change completely after getting in office
Until the Democratic Party just ignores primary results they don’t like.
Traitorapist Trump is that you? It sure sounds like you. I’m so sick of your ridiculous bullshit.
