Edit: Replaced PayPal with Starlink
There’s Tesla stocks in my socially responsible ETF. What should I do?
Divest. Invest in individual stocks you believe in which don’t profit off of war, and literal Nazi shit.
Micromanaging individual stocks is super risky and basically a full-time job.
Yea that’s kinda by design unfortunately.
If you’re trying to avoid evil companies, maybe stocks aren’t the way to uh do that.
I don’t know why it’s so hard to get people to care about things. It’s not like twitter is some vital service. But people are just like, “meh, it’s funny.” What tepid slop do these people have where their soul should be?
Human brains are sadly very predisposed to convenience over spending extra effort, especially when that convenience is the established norm; we tend to resist change unless that extra effort will bring a noticeable and immediate personal benefit. Degrees of separation from the act and the harm is also a big factor, most people stop thinking beyond a certain point and just go “it’s not that deep”.
It takes a lot of education and introspection about complex topics to understand how the “harder way” is actually cumulatively easier and brings more benefits but that also brings with it accepting certain truths one used to believe about the fundamental workings of the world they based all of their actions and even their identity on are actually falsehoods but the brain really, really hates that.
This is a key concept in writing enforceable legislation to get people to change habits. Had to learn about it in a class for my degree for wildlife conservation. The way is somehow exploiting how the way our brains work to trick them into believing that the decision to change is not only the best and easiest option but also that it was their idea to do so in order to allow their brain to handwave any inconsistency in their internal logic instead of fighting against their cognitive dissonance trying to change it by force.
Generally, people aren’t bad people, they are just dumb primates who are trying their damnedest to live as easily as possible with the least amount of conflict while still feeling that they and their loved ones are protected from perceived harm. They “care” but they don’t really think about what that means beyond a very, very limited scope of their immediate existence. After a certain point, arbitrary to each individual that will change at any given moment, they begin to wonder what it all has to do with the price of tea in China.
So don’t convince them to care about the price of tea but instead how the price of tea will affect something they do care about in their lives.
I went to a gay camp earlier this year and a couple of the RVs had starlinks. They don’t care and they don’t think their dollars matter.
In fact I had a whole chat with my boss today about Chick Filet, he asked if I was boycotting (and said his gay daughter is too). He then launched into this spiel about how you’re always supporting evil somehow so it doesn’t matter.
I’m like, yeah but not one penny of my money goes to them, and that’s all I can care about.
When this comes up, which isn’t that often, I typically ask them where the line is. Like, presumably there’s something a company could do that’s so evil that they wouldn’t support it. What is it, for them? Crushing babies live on TV? That’s probably too far, right? So then we can sort of do a binary search between that line and where we are, and try to find what is too much for them. I suspect for many people it’s “am I personally, immediately, harmed by this, in a way I can’t rationalize?”
It’s not like twitter is some vital service.
Well, unless you’re an indie artist.
Seems normal.
Difficult list to look at for a few reasons. Some of these ventures plowed the way forward in their respective field.
Even after the ‘innovation plateau’ of a few of these ventures, at least the engineers and other experts that actually did the innovating would be able to go work for the competition. At least in theory.
It must be stressful to be in a position doing work you are skilled at - and might even enjoy - while your company’s leadership is publicly committed to causes that go against your belief systems.
Though I suppose that’s not a problem unique to organisations beneath Musk.
TBF the Nazis were pretty instrumental in the development of rockets.
I’d live in a world without rockets in a instant if it meant the Nazis didn’t exist
Yes, we know. At least I hope. Doesnt mean we have to continue
Musk doesn’t own PayPal, nor any shares of it. It’s owned by eBay.
That’s… Well, I don’t like eBay, but it’s better eLon.
And yet. Peter Thiel is also a Nazi, so using PayPal still benefits Nazis.
Thiel
was kicked out ofsold PayPal. Where are yall getting this PayPal connection with nazis? Sheesh.Edit: sorry I had that backwards. Musk was kicked out, thiel sold. Back in 2002. Literally 23 years ago.
Thank you. I’ve replaced PayPal with starlink
Oh so this is a Photoshop? For a moment I thought Teslas were hacked and showing these messages to everyone. That would have been neat.
This is Lemmy. This content was GIMPed. I wouldn’t even pirate Adobe products.
I tried to match a picture of a Tesla error as much as possible however.
“Photoshop” is a verb. No need for the pedantry. You know what I meant.
I’m with you. “This is shopped” will never leave usage for me
Oh so this is a Photoshop?
Looks like a noun to me, dawg.
Its not a verb I use. Try a better lexicon.
Edit: Lesson 9 of On Tyranny: Be kind to our language.
Avoid pronouncing the phrases everyone else does. Think up your own way of speaking, even if only to convey that thing you think everyone is saying. Make an effort to separate yourself from the internet. Read books.
Ok
If only people would take this stuff to heart. Tesla prices haven’t budged 🤷
Don’t give money to Nazis no matter what.
But it does help that each and everyone of those brand objectively suck in their respective field.
Objectively not true for spacex. I wish like hell it was owned by someone else.
Musk hasn’t been involved with PayPal for over 20 years. He lost his job as ceo over 20 years ago. The last dealing he had with them was having to pay them like almost $200 mill or something to have the x domain again
Thank you, updated.
Eutalsat please, we want OneWeb for residential use :D
