Now hold on, the United Kingdom’s Labour government in all their infinite wisdom and omnipotent godlike knowledge just concluded that there is no genocide there, so who do I believe?!
They expressed sympathy and anger for a white supremacist being killed, but not a school shooting that same day. Fuck 'em
Honestly, there’s too many school shootings to keep track of over there, it’s basically just routine now. Awful as it sounds, reporting on them seems as pointless as reporting on motorway crashes - they keep happening regardless and are horrible preventable tragedies, but are limited in scope of their effect on a national or international scale.
High profile political activist assassinations are far less frequent though, and far more impactful on that country and potentially on an international scale depending on how the country adjusts it’s policies or social norms (it’s not a good thing I know, but they have become jaded to shootings in their schools and barely bat an eye when it happens on a national scale any more, so it doesn’t really affect anything worth reporting on over here).
So, I can understand why one would get more attention than another, even if it’s not remotely just or fair.
But yes, I can’t imagine why our government would offer condolences or anything positive towards that fascist’s memory or family. We’re not afraid of calling a spade a spade over here, but our government isn’t exactly stellar, alas.
I have long hoped that they would sort out their school slaughter problem, it’s ridiculous that they’ve built and maintain a society that not only allows it to happen in any but the rarest most extreme of circumstances, but that they aren’t interested in fixing the issue enough to actually make meaningful change.
Heck, I see them installing special equipment to slow down gunmen, I see them trying to arm their teachers (insanity), and give kids bullet proof backpacks and such. It all sounds ridiculous looking in from the outside so I don’t know how much of that is even true, but it seems they’re trying to treat the symptoms not the cause :-(
Anyway yeah, our current government sucks, I certainly didn’t vote for them. Their stances on a great many things don’t represent my views.
Now that y’all have finally caught up to the rest of the class, what the fuck are you going to do about it
Let countries point at the findings when they take action basically.
the UN? best we can do is strongly worded letter.
The UN is multiple entities some have executive power some does. ICJ can’t do anything concrete so they can be blamed for not yet admitting there is a genocide yet but not for failling to stop the genocide. A commision job is to investigate, find a conclusion which they did, it is the un country members who has the power to stop the genocide
“We will write a strongly written letter after the genocide has concluded unless the checks bounce.”
What the fuck do you expect them to do?
What the fuck?? We expect them to uphold their obligations under the genocide convention that all agreed to, mobilize their troops to engage the Israeli genocidal army and end the genocide.
No faith in them doing anything after two years of live streamed genocide, but I expect them to do more than the bare minimum that Spain is starting to do now.
The UN does not have “troops”. UN peacekeepers are members of the armed forces of member states and are deployed at the behest of the Security Council. Why then would you blame the UN as an organisation for not sending in military personnel, when the fault lies in the members and, especially those who would veto any such action?
Jesus Christ, you’re gonna pedantically argue semantics in a conversation about stopping active genocide?
The United NATIONS, as the name implies, is an intergovernmental organization of NATIONS. We don’t expect António Guterres to personally arrest Netanyahu as the other pedantic comment mocked, we expect the governments that make up the UN to uphold their obligations, or failing that, for their people to hold their governments responsible.
Apathy rules, unfortunately, and when the Nazis come for you, there won’t be anyone left to hear you say “actually, the UN does not have “troops” to save me”.
I’m gonna be as pedantic as I ever am, yeah, because boring moaning about the UN is misguided and seeps into society.
When people make fun of the UN for “writing a strongly worded letter” that is a missed opportunity to criticise national governments, especially that of the USA, who are the ones with actual actions they can take, Israel itself notwithstanding.
Apathy rules, unfortunately, and when the Nazis come for you, there won’t be anyone left to hear you say “actually, the UN does not have “troops” to save me”.
Do you think whingeing about the UN would have saved me, or else what are you even trying to say here?
Then do something,anything.come on UN this is exactly what you where created for,do something,anything
The UN was created as a forum to discuss things. It has no means to enforce anything.
Like what? People say this all the time but rarely have any concept of what the UN can do.
Israel doesn’t want to stop their genocide. Other countries don’t want to force it to stop. How do you propose the UN takes action to halt it, other than by determining that it is a genocide and demanding that countries obey their obligations under international law?
Do you want António Guterres to personally march into Jerusalem and arrest Netanyahu?
The UN was created to avoid war between major powers, genocide is within its purview but not really something it’s built to handle.
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But they had to do this because some keep saying the sky is green.
“Today in No Shit news…”
They still gotta investigate while another 200k innocent people are murdered, though. This is the price we pay for living in “civilized” “democracies”.
What else can we do? It’s a nuclear state backed by the US. The US won’t allow NATO to do anything, and anyone else intervening would spark a World War.
Have you heard of economic sanctions? Arms embargos?
Obviously the UN can’t do this, but the EU could, and hasn’t. This has been an obvious genocide for well over a year now. Even if it weren’t genocide, killing tens of thousands of civilians and destroying an entire countries infrastructure over 1k deaths and a hundred (?) hostages is a psychopathically disproportionate scale of war crimes.
Most of the EU is in NATO, still beholden to the US
The US and Israel are genocide-founded brother nations now, it’s understandable they support each other.
It’s a nuclear state backed by the US. The US won’t allow NATO to do anything, and anyone else intervening would spark a World War.
Doesn’t matter. The countries who signed the genocide convention should respect their obligations
Well you don’t want to blame anyone unfairly, gotta mind your p’s and q’s and come in with an airtight case bc you only get one shot when you go for the king (or something, that’s usually the line I’m given as to why the gears of justice grind so slowly or whatever)
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I’d wager most people here at least somewhat agree with your view, you’re being downvoted because you’re rambling like a maniac, wtf are you talking about wanting to kill some rando. Take a chill pill and make a contribution rather than using us as your void to scream into. No need to insult everybody either
I’m sure if we dig in your history we can find something to hang you over ad well…
Can’t really dig into a 2h old troll account that already had 90% of his posts removed.
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The UN just officially declared palestine a genocide
The UN body able to do that is the ICJ, and so far they haven’t done so. UN commissions and experts =/= the UN. Not that it makes “neutrality” in the face of genocide any less horrible, but the finding in the OP isn’t much different from past UN experts saying it’s a genocide.
