I have accepted reality and not purchased the game.
Thanks for the heads up Bobandy.
Dude is such a tool.
…or Do Not Play
way ahead of you there, guy
Couldn’t have been less interested. Borderlands hasn’t been remotely interesting since 2 and everything since then has been a soulless cash grab.
Hard disagree.
Pre-Sequel, 3 and Wonderlands have all been great games that I had lots of fun with. I also know I’m going to have upwards of 100 hours of fun with 4. That’s what makes this whole story even more frustrating…
But I’m a patient gamer. I played the previous BL games years after they came out. I’ll do the same for this one - not because I can’t afford a 60€ price tag but because articles like this. Sad.
If I have just bought a 90 series graphics card and a 60 euro game, it sure as hell better than buttery smooth. Since it won’t be ill just save my money thanks.
Wonderlands
Interesting. To me that game was just the worst:
Unskippable, long, very very very long, boring dialogues.
Shitty weapons, but fantasy. E.g. no oomph feeling when you hit the enemy with a large ice explosions. It just scraps a little of their health.
Boring, unchallenging fights.
BL4 is awesome so far. Works fantastic on PS5. I hope next time they just skip releasing a PC version at all and use the extra resources for the other versions like GTA.
I played an hour of the first game and that was enough for me, so I’m not exactly their target demo anyways.
First game was just Diablo 2 but FPS with guns. But I can totally respect anyone that didn’t jive with that. The humor was very hit and miss and definitely made but a group of people who insisted they were hilarious.
I honestly don’t remember anything about it except that I didn’t really enjoy it that much. that was a looong time ago
Their games are so bad now that it would be better to not play them.
Man i’m just trying to survive out here.
I don’t know about you but I feel like telling slaneesh she’s wrong is the last thing you would do.
He’s looking like the Anti-Gaben Newell in that picture there.
Countdown to him getting fired in 3…2…3…4…8…49…
Because companies ultimately seem to love leaders that are toxic these days.
I could be wrong, but doesn’t he own the company?
He wasn’t the only founder and Embracer bought them in 2021. Later TakeTwo acquired the studio when Embracer had to restructure. They operate under 2k now so he can most surely be fired.
Also probably why he is even more of a cocky cunt nowadays. He already cashed out.
I worked for Take-Two. The bankers that run that company absolutely see the world the way Randy does. Fuck’em.
Soooo, is Borderlands 4 cracked yet?
Considering i didn’t bother to buy anything borderlands related since Borderlands 2, it will keep preety muchbthe same for me
Same, got 1&2 on a humble bundle. I remember one running great, and 2 bearable on a 1gb netbook att. Cell shaded games shouldn’t be this resource intensive!
I still have my physical PC copy for the first Borderlands, it sounds almost a whole different world when i read 512mb vram recommended on the specs…
The reality is you made a game that few will play for several years. You could have made a game that could be playable on most contemporary machines. You didn’t and will now have to suffer from shitty sales due to your inability to understand that the majority of us don’t have the money to spend like you do you out of touch clueless ballsack.
Anyone that remembers Aliens: Colonial Marines and Duke Nukem Forever knows that Randy Pitchford is garbage. He also ran off most of the talent behind BL1 and BL2, which is why BL3 writing was shitty.
The game is grossly overpriced and infected Denuvo malware. Those things are all symptoms of Randy Pitchford being involved. I’ll pass.
I wasn’t too keen on that $70 basic version price tag in the first place, so thanks Randy. Can’t wait for it to be $39.99
Why stop there? Pretty sure BL3 was free at some point recently.
I accepted and just didn’t buy it to begin with.
After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4
It’s hard to consider an 81 on OpenCritic to be a trainwreck. People tend to buy games that review well, especially when it’s a co-op shooter with basically no competition.
bl3 is a fine game. its just critics of it are so very vocal that nobody feels like saying they like it.
Damn I had to look that up cause it seemed unbelievable. I am shocked it reviewed that well. It just seemed so awful to me.
Am I so out of touch?? No, the children are.
Nah, that game’s great. The writing’s not good, especially for the villains, but people like that game because it’s good.
You aren’t out of touch. Even the worst games don’t get that poor of a review. When you job depends on being on their side, it turns out you can’t voice an honest opinion.
I honestly don’t know what this “trainwreck” talk is. BL3 was passable. I didn’t like the antagonists, but the game played fine if purples dropped way too much and the new guns weren’t great. People make it seem like it was the Worst Game Ever and I don’t get it. The pre-sequel was hot garbage, but 3 was fine.
there’s no nuance in anything anymore. you can’t just say “oh this isn’t really for me, honestly.”
you have to write 18 paragraphs about the fall of the video game industry because of this one game and how its hot trash, kills newborns while they sleep, etc.
From what I hear from people actually able to play the game, it’s better than 3.
Something like:
2 > 4 > 1 > 3 > Pre-Sequel
Was going to say… Who is out there buying games way outside their machines’ specs? Seems pretty straightforward.
I do get a little annoyed at the folks angry at BL4 using a higher end engine. Like, it does look a lot better than previous iterations. That engine upgrade wasn’t for nothing.
There are a ton of looter shooters floating around that aren’t using the Unreal 5 engine. Just play one of those instead. Hell, go back and play BL1. I’m pretty sure that thing runs on a toaster.
This game goes into the twenties on a freaking 4070 at 1440 on high settings and doesn’t even get 60 at medium settings
Now let’s take a look at the “recommended specs” Randy put out there
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 / AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT / Intel Arc B580
Sorry but when in the world is that even remotely acceptable that you consider last Gen was outside machine specs when the developers said sure two generations ago is perfectly fine, which btw, holy crap it’s not.
I have a 3090 in a 7800x3d box with 64 gb ram and I had to drop from 7680x2160 to 3840x1080 to get decent framerates. I get better performance in Star Citizen. After a few CTD’s I just went ahead and got a refund.
There’s a difference between a game being way outside of your specs because it’s graphically very advanced and your hardware is old, and a game just being unoptimized slop that expects its users to deal with by throwing higher specs at a fixable problem.
I have a brand new 5070ti that can play all kinds of UE5 games with much better graphics than BL4 at 4k resolution with ray tracing at a decent frame rate without relying on frame gen. And I’m in the top few percentiles here.
UE5 can run fine on older hardware, but most devs either aren’t given the time to properly optimize or don’t give a fuck about it and would rather rely on upscaling and frame gen tech.
Guys who wear bowties are not smart, but desperately need people to think they are.
Bowties are fine for formal (social) occasions like weddings and parties. Wearing them around every day is weird. Wearing them to work is (generally) weird.
Committing to wearing them everywhere and STILL buying pre-tied ones and not learning how to tie them yourself all while being a mega douche is cringe af.
Yeah, learn to tie them if you’re going to make it part of your personality.
Finally, someone agrees with me on the fucking bow tie thing.
Love the tie. Wear the tie. Talk about the tie. If you can’t tie the tie but you do the first 3, I can’t respect you.
I present to you bill nye as a counter argument
Honestly, I think he might actually fall into the category of cares more about appearing smart than being smart. Not to say he’s dumb, but I do get the sense the reputation is very important to him
Celebrities with distinct looks almost by definition have to be exceptions to this discussion. Wearing a giant clock necklace to work would absolutely be weird unless it were Flavor Flav.
i think it’s more about him having gotten used to it when he played a character on a children’s programme. he also has the face for it, which randall does not.
Oh that Bill Nye.
What french fuckin year is it where ANYONE feels the NEED to wear a bowtie?! You can just wear your boxers as a neckerchief if you like…
I swear I have no idea why they let him talk. He doesn’t even own the company, surely someone at 2K could just go… you know… shush.
I don’t even think the BL4 thing is that bad, on the face of it. There is really no need to make it worse.
“We have been made aware of some performance issues in certain systems in our new release, we’ll be looking into performance improvements in future patches”. It’s not that hard. At this point just copy/paste whatever the other thousand UE5 games said, go fix the wonky precompilation boot step and stop digging a hole.
Hell, it’s even easier than that, because they have actually pretty much put that out. All he really needed to do was shut up about it.
Yeah but this assumes he has enough emotional intelligence not to take criticism personally and then lash out in response.
So why hasn’t someone in charge taking his Twitter account away from him?
You know how some people have seen eye dogs, well he needs a thinking brain person. Anytime he is in public there should be someone stood next to him who interrupts him before he has the opportunity to answer, and gives the corporately sanitised answer he should have given.
Of course the borderlands guy would look like that
You ain’t exactly handsome yourself bud😅
My mom says I am
Randy Pitchfork looks like a mix of the first second generation employee of blizzard (aka Piratesoftware) and Steve buscemi
Now I can’t unsee this
Out of the loop, is it a AAA game drama?
Yeah, so it’s just the usual
Apparently the graphics are basically the same as 3, but performance is dog shit on even the best hardware and crashes are unavoidable.
When people complained, he said they need to use AI fake frame and upscale from 720. Which still wasn’t good performance.
It might get fixed later in updates. But this guy is handling so badly he might legitimately be mentally unwell. It’s at the point it’s weird he still has a job
It’s got Denuvo running
That’s probably not the cause of the issues here though. Denuvo impacts game performance but not as badly as Borderlands 4 is seeing. The engine they chose has issues even on non denuvo games. It’s an unoptimized mess and then gearbox didn’t optimize any further themselves.
Just your typical Randy drama you get at every BL release.
At least he didn’t punch anyone this time.
Nor did he leave a USB stick containing sensitive design data and camgirl porn at a Medieval Times
Things are looking up for ol’ Randy
The cam girl porn was the valuable bit. I sure as hell know nobody wants the Borderlands code
True, no physical punches just metaphoric ones to every gamer right in the genitals with his BS yet again.
Yet!
BL4 is running horribly, even on higher end PCs. I have a 4090 and a decent processor, but only getting 80FPS max with a good few settings on low or off and AI frame gen on (I would rather not, but performance is just that bad).
Holy shit you get 80 fps with frame gen on with a 4090? What resolution?
2560 × 1440
Holy fuck that is so much worse than I realized it was. What a joke.
According to hardware unboxed 4090 at 1440 natively on the badass preset gets an average of 67 FPS. I’m not defending the poor performance of Borderlands 4, it’s definitely ass, I just don’t think we should take insane statements from randos at face value. Always verify performance with reputable sources instead of someone saying something on the web without giving the full picture. Who knows what they’ve done with their computer to get such poor performance.
That doesn’t really seem to contradict the other person’s claim that much? In fact like your said if just a few other things are running on that person’s pc and eating some resources, their claim seems super believable in the context of what you just said so I’m not sure what your point is.
A reviewer/tester is going to be benchmarking in a best case scenario environment. Real people using their real computers will be experiencing a huge variety of other environments. Different temps, hardware settings, programs running, etc. None of that context excuses the performance, and makes that person’s performance claim believable.
And Silksong will also run like shit if I run an AI model in the background that’s hogging all resources, but if I said Silksong ran like shit on a 4090 you’d say I’m full of shit. But with Borderlands 4 it would be okay to say that because it fits your biases?
My point is you can’t take such statements at face value. They need to be looked at critically because who knows what the person is doing with their machine or what kind of information they’re omitting. Maybe the other person has a CPU bottleneck because they threw a 4090 together with a Ryzen 7 2700X? If you take them at face value you’re just reflecting your own biases which means you call it bullshit if it doesn’t fit your bias or you agree with it when it does fit your bias.
What’s crazy is how inconsistent the problems seem to be. I’ve got a 4080 Super and a decent processor, and I’m getting 120-140fps with most settings as high as they can go with frame gen on at 1440p. Only crashed once in about 40 hours of gameplay.
This feels like Halo Infinite all over again.
Oh, you have identical specs and built at the exact same time? Yeah, half of you are going to randomly have issues and half won’t. Enjoy head casing about that.
I am going to need to double check my settings then. I might have only enabled DLSS and not frame gen.
I’ve got a 6800xt and it runs really well on medium settings. Looks pretty good as well. Never had the game crash on me either. It’s 60fps but I’m cool with that. Gameplay feels smooth at that and it’s steady. No upscaling no frame Gen. 3440x1440.
I have heard a lot of people are having issues with Nvidia hardware though.
That AAAA to you!
