Feels like the first step before the concentration camps

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    Nazis went after trans people, burned trans related books.

    Nazis are going after trans people, burning trans related books.

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      You caused this shouting down calls for leaders that could win.

      Now getting shitty with everyone for not supporting doomed to fail strategy of worthless at best corporate tools, that lead all of their sheep, (that is you!) to blame voters which somehow means they get to keep their jobs in the party machine.

      We needed a new deal, we knew running as the status quo against reform could not win, yet did it, because preventing reform is the raison de etre of ypur hack dem polits and establishment.

      Gtfo with you blaming voters for yet another shit show. You will fail us again if you are not stopped.

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    Jesus fucking Christ! If someone should be regarded at terrorists, it’s the current administration. Stay safe, my friends.

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      They are copying their critics that have taken to accusing the polit and biz owner class and them specifically of believing in nothing. Morality means nothing, only self interest. Entire generations of “leaders,” that have no morals, no line they would not cross for self interest.

      So naturally they accuse others of it.

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    The Heritage Foundation is once again pushing a hateful act designed to hurt a large number of innocent people. It’s basically their MO.

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      A little off subject but PBS just allowed some Heritage Foundation hack to come on and lie, right after they allowed some Israel partisan to come on and lie to justify their final solution, right after one of their own correspondence endorsed Israel’s lie about Hamas operating out of hospitals. PBS was never that bad before.

      I wonder what happened to PBS all of a sudden that caused them to give up?

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    The Bureau defines “Nihilistic Violent Extremism” as “criminal conduct… in furtherance of political, social, or religious goals that derive primarily from a hatred of society at large and a desire to bring about its collapse by sowing indiscriminate chaos.”

    What the actual fuck? This is pure bigoted Nazi shit.

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        To these people any society with trans people in it is a destroyed society since their society is trans exclusionary.

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          Trans are just the the first of an ever-expanding group of others to be targeted, including pretty much everybody in leadership in the party right now. I think it is pretty safe to assume that dear leader, whomever it is, we’ll become as paranoid as Joseph Stalin and anybody in leadership now will be suspected and purged if they get what they think they want here.

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      I wonder if they ran that language through AI before putting it in writing?

      The provided definition of “Nihilistic Violent Extremism” is indeed written in a way that could be interpreted broadly and applied subjectively. This is a characteristic that has been used historically for political and social control.

      • Vagueness of Key Terms: The phrase “hatred of society at large” is an abstract concept, not a concrete, verifiable action. It’s an internal state, a motive, that could be attributed to a person or group by an outside observer. This vagueness, similar to the Nazi’s use of “enemies of the state” or “asocial,” allows for a wide range of individuals to be targeted, including those with different political views or lifestyles, not just those committing specific, violent acts.

      • Risk of Arbitrary Application: When legal or official definitions lack specific, objective criteria, they open the door for arbitrary and discriminatory application. The Nazis exploited this by using vague laws like Paragraph 175 to persecute homosexuals. The law wasn’t designed for this, but its vague wording allowed for expanded interpretation to fit the regime’s agenda. Similarly, a definition based on an internal “hatred” could be used to target and punish dissenters or political opponents by labeling their criticism of society as “hatred.”

      • Focus on a Perceived State, Not a Crime: The definition frames the group by a state of being—“hatred”—which is then linked to a desire for “collapse.” This is a similar pattern to Nazi propaganda, which didn’t just target what Jews or communists did, but what they were. They were defined as a parasitic race whose very existence was a threat, a view that was independent of any specific criminal act. The provided edict, by focusing on a group’s emotional state and desired outcome, creates a label that can precede and justify action against them.

      This type of broad, subjective language in legal and official definitions is a common feature of authoritarian or repressive systems. It allows the ruling power to define its enemies based on fluid criteria and to legally justify their persecution.

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        The Nazis exploited this by using vague laws like Paragraph 175 to persecute homosexuals. The law wasn’t designed for this, but its vague wording allowed for expanded interpretation to fit the regime’s agenda.

        This is incorrect. Paragraph 175 was always designed to prosecute gay sex, and was enforced even during the Weimar Republic. What the Nazis did was expand it - you didn’t have to have sex with a man, just do something that might lead to sex with a man. Essentially, gay men could have gotten away with holding hands or even kissing in earlier eras, sex needed to be proven. But the Nazis made it essentially any gay behavior.

        Paragraph 175 continued to be enforced after the Nazis were kicked out - it stayed on the books in West Germany essentially unchanged until 1969. After ‘69 it was changed to only apply to sex with men under 21 or prostitution.

        Gay men who were liberated from the camps who had charges under Paragraph 175 were often sent back to finish their sentences. The handbook for the Allies mandated this.

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    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist

    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist

    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist

    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew

    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me


    Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Kommunist.

    Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

    Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

    Als sie die Juden einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Jude.

    Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte

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    You wanna know what creates extremists? Bullshit like this. It’s self-fulfilling prophecy.

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      You in the same Harris that refused to give them a platform at the convention while she had time for Republicans cops and zionists on the convention stage? The same one that said that we need to follow the laws of the land which include the 500 anti-trans laws put into place by Republicans? The ones that don’t care that the trans homeless population is growing as long as they can use their preferred restroom? Democrats use marginalized communities as political footballs as much as Republicans do.

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        Democrats use marginalized communities as political footballs as much as Republicans do.

        He says, as one of those parties gears up towards concentration camps, using language identical to the Nazi party.

        Fuck off with your disingenuous whataboutisms. Equating the Democrats admittably unethical actions to the Rupublicans building towards literal fucking genocide is dishonest, dangerous, and ignorant.

        Fucking .ml.

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    The group defines “TIVE” as “the belief that violence is justified against people who oppose [the trans community],” as well as the belief that opposing trans rights “itself constitutes a form of violence towards people who identify as [trans or gender nonconforming]… or poses an imminent threat to such persons’ emotional, psychological, or physical safety, including through self-harm or suicide.”

    What an insane redefinition of “self defense.” Violence isn’t justified…unless you are being targeted, harmed, or killed, which many trans or NB people are. It’s absurd to preemptively label self defense as “violence.” It’s cart-before-horse, intentional PR spin to dehumanize a subset of human people. One species, all human.

    The administration will need scapegoats when its policies fail. They’ve laid this ground work for years now. They want justification for violence through violence themselves in this mental gymnastics.

    It’s the Heritage Foundation, which might as well be called “Propaganda Hut.” Let me guess: more divisive, American-dividing ideas? Yes, Heritage, let’s keep pushing tribal behavior to encourage class war while the rich destroy the planet and their fellow humans.

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    I’m a terrorist. I’m a leftist, anti-fascist, and I think trans people should have civil rights and be undisturbed.

    Actually that might make me a double terrorist.

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      I used to joke that my views could be deemed terroristic, didn’t expect to see it be a real thing, thank fuck I have zero interest in stepping foot in America.