• gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    Not being defeatist

    When exactly was this? I have heard “oh, I like [candidate/policy] but there’s no way they can win/it can get passed, we need to be realistic” so many times from so many elected officials and media figures with big platforms I wouldn’t even know where to begin listing examples

    • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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      20 hours ago

      “Here’s how Bernie can still win”

      “Guys we just need to vote for Nader!”

      It’s never going to happen. Most of the country won’t vote for it, and the backlash will be huge.

      We’re doomed.

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        19 hours ago

        Bernie didn’t win the nomination, but he inspired a new generation of Democratic Socialists to run and a lot of them won. I know it’s oversimplified … but they just need to run and we need to turn up and vote. It has to start with smaller, local districts. And those are the races who are hurt the most by this defeatism that we can’t win the presidency on this ticket today, so I may as well not vote at all.

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            17 hours ago

            I’ve been turning up to vote.

            Awesome! If you can, next time bring someone who never has before.

            It isn’t working.

            As regular voters, you and I aren’t what I’m encouraging needs to change. We still have pitiful turnout, particularly in the primaries.

            https://statesunited.org/resources/voter-turnout-since-2000/

            Not one state reached 40% turnout in the 2024 primaries. Some states had better primary turnout in 2022! With all the state and federal Representatives and 1/3 of Senators, so many people said “the Democratic party won’t hold a real primary for President so I’m going to ignore all the rest of the offices that effect me and then complain about all the candidates in the general.”

            We can’t vote extra hard to make up for the people who don’t vote at all. We have to try and get them to vote.